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This came up on a game at the weekend. We tossed a coin to see who played first on the first hole and we both took 6 shots. My playing partner's handicap is 4 shots less than me so the question is who has the honour on the second tee?
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Bagful,
IMO in this scenerio, the one who hit off the previous hole first tees off first. It is to stop confusion when getting to the next tee and spending/wasting time discussing who's turn it is. As he is hitting off you would mark your card.
Having said that though - it's ready golf. Whatever is quick for the game. This does not however apply in match play. -
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Well the guy with the lower handicap should have teed off first, unless its a match in which case the order on the draw can come into it.
Deciding who has the honour is based on shots taken on the previous hole, or, if a tie, whoever drove first on the last hole goes first again.
However, as already stated, if its your normal run of the mill strokes game, whoever is ready should hit.Comment
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The honour on the first tee is decided by lot unless the committee has made a draw. Rules 10-1 and 10-2Originally posted by GreeBoman
On subsequent holes
In stroke play, the honour is based on gross shots on the previous hole. Handicap does not come into it. If equal, whoever had the honour keeps it. Handicaps play no part until you have finished when they are deducted from the player's gross score.
In matchplay, the honour goes to the player with the lowest net score.Comment
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Thanks guys
Not an earth shattering question but at least I know now.Comment
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Taking this discussion a little further can someone clarify what is the ruling in stableford competition? Is honour decided by points scored on the previous hole or strokes? What happens if honour is with higher handicapper from previous hole the players finish the current hole with equal points but the lower handicapper because he was conceding a shot took one shot less?
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In any S/Ford comp round I have played in, the honour goes (or has gone) to the highest point scorer (as opposed to the lowest stroke taker) on the hole before and in the event of a tie, the order remains as was for the previous hole for those who tied, with handicaps generally determining initial first tee order, low marker going first....
However, that said, as always, the pace of the round for me has always been the ultimate dictator, and if all members of the foursome agree, ie, no one is gunna get their snozz all out of joint if they are due an honour but because the group behind is up their clacks, the 24 marker goes first on one hole to try and speed things up a little..................
No one likes to spend any much more than 4 and a bit hours on course...
Cheers
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32-1/3 Determination of Honor in Handicap Stableford CompetitionOriginally posted by Scragger63In any S/Ford comp round I have played in, the honour goes (or has gone) to the highest point scorer (as opposed to the lowest stroke taker) on the hole before and in the event of a tie, the order remains as was for the previous hole for those who tied, with handicaps generally determining initial first tee order, low marker going first....
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Q. In a handicap Stableford competition, if B has the honor at a hole and A and B have the same gross score at that hole but A receives a handicap stroke, who has the honor at the next hole?
A. A has the honor because of a better net score.
If neither player scores any stableford points the net score still decides the honour.Comment
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And here's me thinking that if Player A has a better Stableford score than Player B, Player A is gunna have had the better net score for the hole as well...Originally posted by aaa
Please aaa, feel free to correct me if I am wrong...
Mental Note to Self: Avoid playing with blokes who WANT the honour every hole...
Cheers
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The better stableford will always result from the better net. Points are related directly to net vs par. It's only if no points are scored that you have to think about it.Originally posted by Scragger63And here's me thinking that if Player A has a better Stableford score than Player B, Player A is gunna have had the better net score for the hole as well...
But it is always netComment
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Hmmm... Lemme see......Originally posted by aaa
How many of us here have ever played in a fourball where not one player has scored a point on any given hole......???
And, was I then mistakenly of the opinion that in the rare event of a tie in "scratches" (no points) that Player A's scratch is worth less than Player B's scratch because they aren't equal due to handicap allowance differentials...???
So, it follows then that I am also mistaken in my notion that I should pick up immediately when I know I can't score a point if I want the honour because by carrying on and holing out my net 12 stroke scratch for the hole is better than my playing partners 7 stroke scratch where he picked up after hitting three balls OOB off the tee....???
Cheers
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Where did the other two come from ? I didn't see them turn up.Originally posted by Scragger63
In a Scratch games handicaps don't exist. Scratch is net.And, was I then mistakenly of the opinion that in the rare event of a tie in "scratches" (no points) that Player A's scratch is worth less than Player B's scratch because they aren't equal due to handicap allowance differentials...???
No, if you pick up you haven't got a net score. If the other guy has any score he beats you.So, it follows then that I am also mistaken in my notion that I should pick up immediately when I know I can't score a point if I want the honour because by carrying on and holing out my net 12 stroke scratch for the hole is better than my playing partners 7 stroke scratch where he picked up after hitting three balls OOB off the tee....???
Incidentally do you mean fellow competitor (stroke play) or partner (match play). Playing partner is not a defined term.Comment
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Too deep for me guys.
The one with the most points on the hole has the honour. If it is square, the one who had the honour on the previous hole, tees off first.
Disregard match play, but what ever is quicker for the game do, ie, ready golf.Comment
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"Scratch" is a term often used in different ways in golf.....
A "Scratch" Golfer is one whose handicap is somewhere between -0.5 and 0.4
A "Scratch" in a Stableford round being where you score no points for a given hole
A "Scratch" can also be a mark left on the course by a burrowing animal or bird
Here was me thinking we were talking Stableford rounds...
What's my point...???
Dunno, I've forgotten...
Have a great round when next you play...
Cheers
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Do as you wish, but this is a forum about the Rules.Originally posted by vp27519
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