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    Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

    Sometimes we see a slow motion replay of a player's swing using an ultra high speed camera, and a close up where the clubhead impacts the ball. These images are phenomenal and I'm wondering if there is anywhere on the web where I could download any of these from past tournaments. It's a great teaching aid especially seeing the path of the clubhead into the back of the ball.

    Thanks
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  • #2
    Re: Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

    To be honest, those high high speed films are interesting to see, but not any better then a normal high quality video on "sport" mode.

    Fun to see the ball compress...and the exact location on the face, but that's about it.

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    • #3
      Re: Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

      Greg I disagree with you - for the mid handicap people to see the mechanics in super slow motion is a great benefit. I just wish I could see my own swing to compare it to the els video I saw.

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      • #4
        Re: Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

        And you can, with a reasonably good quality highspeed mode on your camara. You get enough frames to compare. The normal modes on must camaras are too blury where you cannot see where the club's head is. It was just acomment that you don't have to get it to that "super speed" level to get the same evaluation.

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        • #5
          Re: Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

          I've got a cannon mv700i and its ok but pal and NTSC is 25 frames per second.

          Here are some rough numbers
          A golf swing is about 10 meters or 30 foot long and is over in about 1.0 seconds from take away to impact. That is an average of 1 frame every foot. Given the swing stops at the top of the backswing then speeds up to its highest speed at impact - impact is a blurr. Think about it that works out at an average of one frame every two feet.

          Take it another way the club is moving at 110 miles and hour at impact. 5280 feet in a mile so club is moving at 580,800 feet per hour or 9680 feet per min or 161.3 feet per second. There are 25 frames per second. At impact speed the camera will capture one image then another image 6 feet further on.

          This new sony camera is the one i want to buy. It can do 240 frames per second for 3 seconds only though. Enough to capture a golf swing.

          http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...efinitionVideo
          Last edited by tonyc9; 05-30-2006, 05:40 AM.

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          • #6
            Re: Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

            but......

            that camera shutter speed is 1/500 sec

            i have hear that anything slower than 1/2000 is not recommended for golf swing.

            it doesn't matter if you have a camera that does 200 frames per second, if the shutter can only shut as fast as 1/200 then the frame is going to blurry.

            something with 1/2000+ will give you very sharp (if good lighting) pictures but it will make the swing choppy, like it will show your club moving 1-2" at a time (or something like that) which is usualy fine. even though you have a 30 fps if you have a 1/2000 or faster than you are good. (if you have good lighting. most cheaper camera do not have a manual shutter speed setting and rely on the avalible light to use fast shutter speed. some camera have 1/10000sec but can end up blury if you don't have good light.
            Last edited by lgskywalker37; 05-30-2006, 05:38 AM.

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            • #7
              Re: Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

              sorry which camera is 1/500 the sony or the cannon?

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              • #8
                Re: Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

                http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=HDRHC3&Dept=cameras&CategoryName= dcc_DICamcorders_HighDefinitionVideo

                the sony you posted

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                • #9
                  Re: Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

                  Ok - with shutter speed wouldn't it only be a requirement that it is at least twice as fast as the frame rate?

                  My mv700i did have a 1/2000 shutter speed setting but it didnt improve the picture quality that much.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

                    Originally posted by tonyc9
                    Ok - with shutter speed wouldn't it only be a requirement that it is at least twice as fast as the frame rate?

                    My mv700i did have a 1/2000 shutter speed setting but it didnt improve the picture quality that much.
                    that does make sense what yo say, i don't know i wish cameras had demo days. lol

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                    • #11
                      Re: Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

                      I'm not sure about a site with a collection of super slow-mo swings, but here's a link to Tiger's recent swing, and a Mickelson.

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPJtK...%2Dswing%2Ehtm

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYAzj...swing%20vision
                      Last edited by SKlepJr; 06-01-2006, 04:05 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

                        wow thanks so much - that is what we want - now imagine if we could get our own swings in that and see the spin we put on the ball and why we cant hit it straight.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

                          Originally posted by tonyc9
                          wow thanks so much - that is what we want - now imagine if we could get our own swings in that and see the spin we put on the ball and why we cant hit it straight.
                          are you refering to side spin there? as far as telling why you can't hit it strait, you can look at your fliight path to figure that out, you don't need ecpensive camera. closed face draw.open slice in-out push ect.




                          the less backspin the easier it is to get side spin therefore making it harder to hit it strait. so low backspin does have is disadvantages

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                          • #14
                            Re: Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

                            Yes I do mean that - Id still like to see it all though.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Hi speed swingcam on Sky Sports US Tours

                              http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...&search=Search


                              Hundreds of amature and pro swings here.


                              Ian.

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