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**B11NONGOLF** · 08-05-2006, 06:26 PM

Re: who is greatest golfer of all times

Dear Golfjunkie Im Respect You Point Of View...but All Around Tiger Are The Best Pound Per Pound!

**Liam Hancock** · 08-05-2006, 07:25 PM

Re: who is greatest golfer of all times

i reckon nickulas

**GolfJunkieSr** · 08-05-2006, 07:31 PM

Re: who is greatest golfer of all times

Originally posted by B11NONGOLF

Dear Golfjunkie Im Respect You Point Of View...but All Around Tiger Are The Best Pound Per Pound!

No issues at all with you opinion, since Woods' play speaks loud, and clear for him. That is the great thing about opinions, they vary from person to person. I will give you this; that Woods is the best player I have seen in quite some time. However, the best of "all time" will never be answered 100% till the players involved stand toe to toe, in their prime, and play over an extended period of time, which of course can't happen between the current, and past great players........GJS

**Wildbore** · 08-06-2006, 09:02 AM

Re: who is greatest golfer of all times

Originally posted by B11NONGOLF

I Think The Golden Bear,bobby Jones,sam Snead,ARNOLD PALMER Where The Best At Their Times.
But Pound Per Pound Tiger Woods Are The Best Of All Times
He Have The Best Course Management Of All
The Best Short Game Ever
Not Even Seve Ballesteros Can Say Nothing About Tiger Trouble Shoots.

Tiger Woods short game is streaky at best. In terms of scambling, hes been great some years and average in others. The only good thing I can say aboaut Tigers putting is he can make clutch putts, other than that theres nothing spectacular to point out. Tigers Woods short game is far from the best ever, at best his short game is approaching Mickelsons.

Originally posted by B11NONGOLF

What He Has Achive Within 10 Years As Amateur And Pro Going To Hard To Match And Don't Forget He Is 30 Year Old!!!!!!

Exactly, hes only 30. Any chronic injury, crippling disease or mental disorder and hes only a footnote in history.

And as players get older they win less, I would be amazed if Tiger will maintain up his one major per year average.

In my mind its a coinflip if Tiger Woods will or will not be the best player in history.

**bill reed** · 08-06-2006, 07:31 PM

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hi all
think you should also remember that jack nicklaus was runner up in 19 major's. and who know's how many none majors he was runner up in. there was such a strong feld of players then and so many players domanated during jacks time at the top. jack won 71 pga tour and 10 senior and 19 international events= 100 in all. and at same time as so many others were at there best, watson, player, palmer trevino, irwin, ballesteros, floyd, stadler, faldo, kite, norman. how many players win and keep winning like all the player above nowadays. only time will tell with tiger, i'm sure he will win more than jack did but was the competition as good as when jack won, i dont think so i think there were so many great golf stars now as there was in jacks time.
bill

**slater170** · 08-06-2006, 07:40 PM

Re: who is greatest golfer of all times

Originally posted by bill reed

hi all
think you should also remember that jack nicklaus was runner up in 19 major's. and who know's how many none majors he was runner up in. there was such a strong feld of players then and so many players domanated doring jacks time at the top. jack won 71 pga tour and 10 senior and 19 international events= 100 in all. and at same time as so many others were at there best, watson, player, palmer trevino, irwin, ballesteros, floyd, stadler, faldo, kite, norman. how many players win and keep winning like all the player above nowadays. only time will tell with tiger, i'm sure he will win more than jack did but was the competition as good as when jack won, i dont think so i think there were so many great golf stars in jacks time.
bill

be it golf,football,cricket,baseball,basketball,motor racing its a pointless exercise trying to make comparisons from 2 different era's!
so many factors to determine means that you end up with a cock-eyed parallel!

**shootin4par** · 08-06-2006, 08:55 PM

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the strength of field is always on the rise in any sport. nutrition, video cameras, trainers, food coach, sports psychologist, wardrobe consultant etc...For the most part Todays athletes are better then yesterdays because of those advances. Now add in that more people play the sport and more people have the coaches, and more people have the accessability to travel the corners of the globe to play in a tourney, we are now getting the worlds best athletes instead of just a few main countries. How many south africans, fijians, etc played the tour back in the days? Todays field is much stronger, but I also believe what made Hogan, Sneed, Jack, nelson, Jones, etc in their time would have made them just as dominant in any other time.

**GolfJunkieSr** · 08-06-2006, 10:32 PM

Re: who is greatest golfer of all times

Here's an idea to identify the best of all time. If you think about it, the bottom line is money won, especially when the player of the year is chosen. The most money would parallel the most successful.

Take all the past greats, and figure out a way to adjust their golf earnings to the present day dollar numbers. Just the earnings they made from playing golf tournaments, with out endorsements, and appearence fees. Although not 100%, the one who won the most money from just playing golf would have a good arguement for bragging rights. GJS

**slater170** · 08-06-2006, 10:39 PM

Re: who is greatest golfer of all times

Originally posted by GolfJunkieSr

Here's an idea to identify the best of all time. If you think about it, the bottom line is money won, especially when the player of the year is chosen. The most money would parallel the most successful.

Take all the past greats, and figure out a way to adjust their golf earnings to the present day dollar numbers. Just the earnings they made from playing golf tournaments, with out endorsements, and appearence fees. Although not 100%, the one who won the most money from just playing golf would have a good arguement for bragging rights. GJS

hi gjs
still dont agree!
money earned still doesnt take into account quality of opposition players encountered in their era's

**aftford** · 08-06-2006, 10:48 PM

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Hi folks.
I Fractured my wrist while at work last night , and , pain aside, i am so glad it happened becuase instead of working the 3rd night of my 4 nightshifts , i am sat here watching Tiger Woods leading the way to victory in the Buick Invitational.
I saw him in person at hoylake and believe me, this guy is totally and utterly awesome. Yes, he has his weaknesses , but he he is totally aware of them and even mockingly allows for them . he tantalises his fellow players with his erratic drives and then crushes them with his short game and faultless course management.

Go Tiger

aft

**bill reed** · 08-06-2006, 11:01 PM

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hi all
what was £8 milion worth in the 70s thats what trevino won and lost in 5 years.
in 1970 jack nicklaus wont the open and was paid £5250 for winning, billy casper aand christy o'conner both got £404 for being 17th
bill

**shootin4par** · 08-06-2006, 11:53 PM

Re: who is greatest golfer of all times

Originally posted by GolfJunkieSr

Here's an idea to identify the best of all time. If you think about it, the bottom line is money won, especially when the player of the year is chosen. The most money would parallel the most successful.

Take all the past greats, and figure out a way to adjust their golf earnings to the present day dollar numbers. Just the earnings they made from playing golf tournaments, with out endorsements, and appearence fees. Although not 100%, the one who won the most money from just playing golf would have a good arguement for bragging rights. GJS

I think the closest thing we could do which would be even close to accurate woudl be to take all their tournaments, ad up all their finishes and figure out what their average finsh is.

**b0jangles** · 08-07-2006, 12:03 AM

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i think it has to be Jack. He won the Open 3 times? but was runner up more than that. It would be great if it were possible to see him at his best with the technology of todays players, and on the flip side of that would Tiger be able to as strong as he is now if he was using the clubs and balls of Jack's era along with the rest of the field?

**SIRCHOPALOT** · 08-07-2006, 06:45 PM

Re: who is greatest golfer of all times

Originally posted by b0jangles

i think it has to be Jack. He won the Open 3 times? but was runner up more than that. It would be great if it were possible to see him at his best with the technology of todays players, and on the flip side of that would Tiger be able to as strong as he is now if he was using the clubs and balls of Jack's era along with the rest of the field?

They have lengthened the course, lengthened the rough and dramatically sped up the greens compared to when Nicklaus was in his prime. The length of the clubs/balls today should be a non-factor in a comparison.

Tiger is in better physical condition than Nicklaus could only dream about.
Tiger plays against VJ, Ernie Els, the best players from Australia, Japan, the tour is much more international than ever. He is the WORLDS best and will continue to astound if he does not get hurt or bored with the game. The numbers show Tiger plays in less events and wins more often than Nicklaus did:

After his Sunday victory Tiger became the seventh member to win 50 PGA Tour events, and at 30, the youngest. Woods has made 196 PGA Tour starts as a pro and 210 overall.
Nicklaus won his 50th title in 1973 at age 33. It was his 280th start overall -- and 262nd as a professional

**msklar92** · 08-07-2006, 07:29 PM

Re: who is greatest golfer of all times

Just one other thing to add to the pot. Look at the equipment Nicklaus and all other pros were using at that time. The last Masters they did a comparison of clubs used between Nicklaus and Tiger before the course was lengthened. Amazingly they were quite similar.

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