hi brian
yes i agree with you the range is best place to play about with this shot to see how much you have to be open to fade the amount you want, once you know then a fade is an easy shot to play. brian do you tend to control how much you fade much better than you do a draw?
bill

Oh please, the face is still open to path, or closed to the path. Speed that putter upto 100 mph and see what happens. of course the ball in the putter drill follows the face putting angle with a putting stroke, the face angle has more influence then path at that speed, won't hold up when path energy is added in a swing.

In car driving 5 mph turn the wheel to the right all the way as far as it goes, car turns right immediately, now do it going 100 mph, guess what, it's going forward for a ways flipping over until it stops, but it ain't going turn like it did at 5 mph.

note: If your instructor is telling you, face angle has more to do with the initial direction then path, don't walk away from that idiot, RUN.

I cannot argue - this method works. I've seen it work.

But don't be fooled into thinking that the ball is starting down your toe line. The ball is still starting on the draw side of your toe/heel line, the face is still closed relative to the path (draw spin) and square to target. So, since path has a small influence, we only get slight movement to the right of the target line at the start if you've closed the face relative to the target line at impact, otherwise it's still kind of open to target (but closed to path), and we get a ball that starts right, but ends up moving left.

But face angle will always dominate which part of the path the ball starts on.

Someone said a putter shows you well. Someone argued that you only swing the putter 3 mph.

So buy a cheap putter from the throwaway bin, put an iron grip on it, and swing. Or hammer putts as hard as you care. You'll see that face angle wins, every time. (I've got the dented garage door to prove it.)

Or if you don't like that idea, use your 7 iron. Choke the face wide open. Hood it closed. Swing as deliberately as you like down your chosen path. Face angle wins.

I'll try and get some video when the snow melts (I don't think my garage door can take much more).

I really don't post that often but I like hitting a good power fade. I am a land surveyor by profession and a 19 Handicap. I see a lot of guys posting about how far they open and close there body to hit a draw or fade. Any where from 10 to 35 degrees. I don't think (myself included) anyone understands how far open these different degrees are. I took a protractor an put it on the floor. I lined where I wanted the ball to land and pointed my shoulders, hips and feet where on wanted the ball to start. You would be suprised on how far 35 degrees puts left or right of the target. I guess what I am trying to say is that if you do this you might see that you don't have to line up as far left or right as you think and might get better results.