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  • #16
    Re: It must be heavy....

    For me, the "slowness" aspect of our game is not a function of a player moving from shot to ball, but very much a function of time wasted between arriving at the ball and hitting it...

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    • #17
      Re: It must be heavy....

      Originally posted by Scragger63
      For me, the "slowness" aspect of our game is not a function of a player moving from shot to ball, but very much a function of time wasted between arriving at the ball and hitting it...
      I dont disagree at all, but I dont think the PGA are having any success in speeding up players "at the ball".
      There needs to be a severe penalty applied for slow play, they would be able to show way more shots on TV if it didnt take 5 mins for a 2 foot putt.

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      • #18
        Re: It must be heavy....

        Originally posted by BrianW
        No. It is impossible for everyone to see that.
        Why?
        On any particular hole some see the drives, some see the approaches and some see the short game, then you move and see something different (if you want to)


        [quote=BrianW]
        Slow play is a different matter and dealt with by the rules.
        [/QUOTE}
        except its not.

        Originally posted by BrianW
        Leadbetter, Pelz, Bradley, Harmon etc would be hard pressed to keep up with all of them.
        Exactly, your caddie is *not* your mentor, originally he is was the guy who knew the course better than you did. The modern caddie is a totally different thing than the original caddy and in my opinion adds to the time it takes to play a round of golf.



        Originally posted by BrianW
        Slowness, no need for it and nothing to do with buggies. As I said, I agree that anyone qualifying and infirm should be able to use a buggy.
        But who decides whats a qualifying illness and whats not?
        Why not let it be optional? If you want one, take one.
        Maybe then the players could spend then 5 minutes thinking about each shot while the group in front are still in range.

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        • #19
          Re: It must be heavy....

          We obviously disagree on most of this, that's fine and I respect the fact that everyone has their own opinion.

          I would only comment further on the infirm: A doctor decides. In my club for example, anyone requiring the use of a buggy in an official competition must present a doctors certificate stating why the person cannot walk the course.

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          • #20
            Re: It must be heavy....

            Originally posted by BrianW
            We obviously disagree on most of this, that's fine and I respect the fact that everyone has their own opinion.
            agreed!
            Originally posted by BrianW
            I would only comment further on the infirm: A doctor decides. In my club for example, anyone requiring the use of a buggy in an official competition must present a doctors certificate stating why the person cannot walk the course.
            We are the same, but its also pretty dependent on the players own honour code.
            I wonder how long that would last if it was decided that it was an advantage.
            Im sure some brown envelopes would be exchanged...

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            • #21
              Re: It must be heavy....

              Unfortunately, if there weren't carts, there wouldn't be golf courses because most people wouldn't play.

              Personally, I think using a cart raises your score. There is something about walking that gets you into a rhythm and helps your swing.

              They do use carts on the senior tour.

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              • #22
                Re: It must be heavy....

                Originally posted by msklar92
                Unfortunately, if there weren't carts, there wouldn't be golf courses because most people wouldn't play.

                Personally, I think using a cart raises your score. There is something about walking that gets you into a rhythm and helps your swing.

                They do use carts on the senior tour.
                Yes, I think that is the case in the USA. I have played at some courses over there where you must use a buggy on a week end.

                In the UK most golfers still walk the course, electric golf trolleys (not sure if this is the US term. You know the pull or push along type) are very popular, especially with seniors. I know an 86 year old woman that still walks 18 holes 3 times a week, funnily enough it seems that most people over here using buggies are youngsters?

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                • #23
                  Re: It must be heavy....

                  There are courses here where carts are mandatory and the cost is included in your green fee. And at my club we have a couple of members who own their own. They rarely win any of the day comps. We also have many members who have the electric buggy (my term). Having spoken to a couple over the past few months, they say they very much enjoy the walk, but the pulling the old manual cart with the golf bag getting heavier was too much for their backs. The electric buggy extends their golfing life.

                  And here's me carrying my own bag because I'm trying to get fitter...

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                  • #24
                    Re: It must be heavy....

                    In Denmark only posh snobs drive carts (no offense meant to anybody) - and a few physically disabled or impeded players.

                    The 'norm' is push/pull trolleys and walking. Some - mainly elderly - have electric trolleys, but most are regular push/pull trolleys.

                    Most young players use a stand-bag.

                    My guess is that 1, perhaps 2% maximum is using carts.

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