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    Could you settle a dispute,my pal says you can take a practice swing in a bunker.I say if you do you would be deemed as testing the sand with your feet(of course not touching the sand with the club).
    Who's right?.
    I have never seen a pro take a practice swing in a bunker,half swing yes.
    Last edited by ilang; 01-27-2007, 11:55 AM.

  • #2
    Re: Practise Swing in Bunker

    Take as many practice cuts as you like. But don't touch the sand with your club - this includes your takeaway for when you do actually swing. Touching the sand with your club makes for testing.

    Your pal is right.

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    • #3
      Re: Practise Swing in Bunker

      Thanks, but i already stated that,the point I made was,is it deemed to have tested the sand with your feet.

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      • #4
        Re: Practise Swing in Bunker

        For me a bunker is a wholly unnatural experience and I want to be in one for as little time as is possible, if at all...

        Regardless of what the rule book might have to say on this (who actually reads it anyway, right... ) there is also the matter of time, how many practice swings do you want to take...???

        Given you can't ground your club in the pot, I don't see that you can take a proper practice swing in a pot anyways...

        All you can do is try to visualise it then play it and hope you get it right...

        For me it's get in there, play your shot, and get out.

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        • #5
          Re: Practise Swing in Bunker

          You can do what you want in a bunker, anything that causes you to touch the sand with anything other than your feet is a stroke.
          - You are however allowed to prevent yourself from falling
          - You can touch the sand whilst removing an obstruction.

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          • #6
            Re: Practise Swing in Bunker

            Originally posted by ilang
            Thanks, but i already stated that,the point I made was,is it deemed to have tested the sand with your feet.
            Lowpost already answered your question.
            Take as many practice cuts as you like.
            You are not considered to be testing the surface.

            What you are not allowed to do is practice your swing in one part of the bunker and play your ball from another.
            Last edited by aaa; 03-26-2007, 05:07 PM.

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            • #7
              Re: Practise Swing in Bunker

              Originally posted by GreeBoman
              anything that causes you to touch the sand with anything other than your feet is a stroke.
              No. It is two penalty strokes.

              Stroke
              A “stroke’’ is the forward movement of the club made with the intention of striking at and moving the ball.

              Penalty Stroke
              A “penalty stroke’’ is one added to the score of a player or side under certain Rules.

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              • #8
                Re: Practise Swing in Bunker

                Originally posted by aaa
                Lowpost already answered your question.

                You are not considered to be testing the surface.

                What you are not allowed to do is practice your swing in one part of the bunker and play your ball from another.
                That's important. Lets say you dig in, take a couple practice cuts, decide you don't like your ball position (or you want to double check your line, or whatever). You back off, dig in again in a different spot (even a couple inches out), and play your ball. Result: 2 penalty strokes.

                Once you've dug in, you can step out and play penalty free if you step back into your dugout.

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                • #9
                  Re: Practise Swing in Bunker

                  in fourball or foursomes can you rake the bunker if your partner has to play another shot out of it?

                  fourball - you are both in the same bunker
                  foursomes - first guy leaves it in

                  I would guess not from 13-4.1

                  Lowpost I didnt see that in the R&A rules, can you point out the rule number?

                  Also, you are allowed to place your clubs in the hazard as long as you are not testing it. What does "places" your clubs mean?

                  Originally posted by 13-4.2
                  Provided nothing is done that constitutes testing the conditpion of the hazard or improves the lie of the ball, there is no penalty if the player places his clubs in a hazard.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Practise Swing in Bunker

                    Originally posted by GreeBoman
                    Lowpost I didnt see that in the R&A rules, can you point out the rule number?
                    Decision 13-4/25 if you mean

                    What you are not allowed to do is practice your swing in one part of the bunker and play your ball from another.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Practise Swing in Bunker

                      Originally posted by GreeBoman
                      Also, you are allowed to place your clubs in the hazard as long as you are not testing it. What does "places" your clubs mean?
                      Simply putting them down while you consider or play your shot.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Practise Swing in Bunker

                        Decision 13-4/2: A player while in the hazard leans on his club while waiting for another to play - penalized.

                        Decision 13-4/24: A player enters the hazard without a club, digs in, swings his hands, leaves, gets his club, returns to the same place, and hits his stroke - in this instance, no penalty. If he came in with one club and dug in, then returned with another club and dug in - penalized.

                        Interestingly enough, 13-4/26: Rule 13-3 allows a player to place his feet firmly in taking his stance in a bunker or elsewhere. There is nothing in the Rules to prohibit changing clubs or taking a stance twice in a bunker.

                        I thought I had seen something on the golf channel to the effect of what I had previously mentioned. However, it seems that 13-3 would negate it.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Practise Swing in Bunker

                          For me it's a safety first idea...

                          If you're not sure and don't have a rule book handy (orr aaa's mobile phone number... ), then err on the side of caution. Our game is dificult enough without incurring penalties as you go...

                          We know we can not test the sand in any way. This could well be why we see so many of the tour guys n gals taking their practice swings before heading into the pot....

                          It is entirely fair to say I hate sand, unless I have a surf rod and not golf clubs with me at the time...

                          Cheers

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                          • #14
                            Re: Practise Swing in Bunker

                            Well I guess you can test the sand legally, as you dig in with your feet.
                            The rules are there to stop you wandering around the bunker to get a feel for the sand and then selecting a club based on that...

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                            • #15
                              Re: Practise Swing in Bunker

                              I don't think you are allowed to dig
                              in with your feet on tour the way you
                              see so many golfers do in club play.
                              The R&A allows you to "firmly place,"
                              and the line between that and "building"
                              a stance may be thin, but it is there.your
                              For instance, if you have a downhill
                              lie in a hazard, you can't grind a hole for
                              your back foot and call it
                              "firmly" placing your foot. This common deal
                              where golfers dig themselves in, finding
                              out what's under there in the process,
                              would be challenged on tour, is my
                              guess.
                              On the other hand, if you call one of
                              your club members on it, get ready for
                              the thunder and lightning ,that's sure to
                              follow.

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