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**LowPost42** · 03-14-2007, 02:15 PM

Re: Steel or Graphite?

Why are you inconsistent?

How strong are you?

What's your swing look like?

**Scragger63** · 03-14-2007, 08:28 PM

Re: Steel or Graphite?

Having once asked the very same question, was once told by a guy who wanted to fit me for a new set of irons that graphite shafts are "more suited" to those individuals who swing slower. He went on to say that he only recommended graphite shafts for (his words, not mine) "older golfers and women" (sorry ladies, as I said, his words...

).

If you are going to have a fitting session, I'd suggest trying both, see which you prefer...

Cheers

**Keith Tobberman** · 03-15-2007, 01:35 AM

Re: Steel or Graphite?

Hello,
Thanks for the tips, and I probable should go with steel because I am young and can swing pretty aggressively. As for being inconsistant, I hit off right sometimes, sometimes I'll hook it, mostly because of my problem with hand position throughout the swing,(I have a post on this in the Golf Swing Instruction forum.)

**Keith Tobberman** · 03-15-2007, 01:36 AM

Re: Steel or Graphite?

Hello,
Thanks for the tips, and I probable should go with steel because I am young and can swing pretty aggressively. As for being inconsistant, I hit off right sometimes, sometimes I'll hook it, mostly because of my problem with hand position throughout the swing,(I have a post on this in the Golf Swing Instruction forum.)
-thanks

**Mox** · 03-15-2007, 11:30 AM

Re: Steel or Graphite?

Originally posted by Scragger63

Having once asked the very same question, was once told by a guy who wanted to fit me for a new set of irons that graphite shafts are "more suited" to those individuals who swing slower. He went on to say that he only recommended graphite shafts for (his words, not mine) "older golfers and women" (sorry ladies, as I said, his words...

).

If you are going to have a fitting session, I'd suggest trying both, see which you prefer...

Cheers

That was probably true 10 years ago, but today, graphite shafts can be made with far more precision than any steel construction. Stronger (and stiffer), lighter, more exact frequencies and kickpoints.

How many steelshafted drivers do we see these days? The longer shafts would be the shafts most vulnerable to soft flexes and torque issues, yet they are the ones we consistently use graphite for. That should tell us a lot.

**Scragger63** · 03-15-2007, 01:45 PM

Re: Steel or Graphite?

Originally posted by Mox

That was probably true 10 years ago, but today, graphite shafts can be made with far more precision than any steel construction. Stronger (and stiffer), lighter, more exact frequencies and kickpoints.

How many steelshafted drivers do we see these days? The longer shafts would be the shafts most vulnerable to soft flexes and torque issues, yet they are the ones we consistently use graphite for. That should tell us a lot.

It would have been about 10 or so years ago too Mox...

Cheers

**BrianW** · 03-15-2007, 06:49 PM

Re: Steel or Graphite?

I have graphite shafts now and love them, I like the feel, they are light and seem to allow you to feel the clubhead more.

OK, (before anyone else mentions it) I am a Grandfather now so I guess I fit into Scraggers descriptive group

I can still hit a pitching wedge 125 yards though. Problem is that now my memory is failing I cant remember where I hit it

**Scragger63** · 03-15-2007, 08:43 PM

Re: Steel or Graphite?

Originally posted by BrianW

I have graphite shafts now and love them, I like the feel, they are light and seem to allow you to feel the clubhead more.

OK, (before anyone else mentions it) I am a Grandfather now so I guess I fit into Scraggers descriptive group

I can still hit a pitching wedge 125 yards though. Problem is that now my memory is failing I cant remember where I hit it

But.....

It wasn't "my" terminology......

OK, Mental note to self, forget the lawyers, need to run everything I type by Dr Phil...

Cheers

**shootin4par** · 03-16-2007, 03:36 AM

Re: Steel or Graphite?

is there a strong player on tour hitting graphite irons? IMO if you are stong enough you will loose feel when hitting graphite because the club will not be heavy enough to produce enough feedback.

**Sumosid** · 03-16-2007, 03:51 AM

Re: Steel or Graphite?

I recently went graphite with a new set of PING G5 irons. I love them.

I think Graphite has come a long way. I hit my current 8 iron 145 meters and my 5 iron 190 meters.

Ping had a recall on the shafts in my clubs and I broke quite a few shafts. they replaced the whole set and I haven't had any breaks this season.

I don't think that I will go back to steel.

Hope that helps.

**BrianW** · 03-16-2007, 10:24 AM

Re: Steel or Graphite?

Originally posted by shootin4par

is there a strong player on tour hitting graphite irons? IMO if you are stong enough you will loose feel when hitting graphite because the club will not be heavy enough to produce enough feedback.

Whatever! I get better feel with a lighter club.

**daviesec** · 03-16-2007, 11:18 AM

Re: Steel or Graphite?

Originally posted by shootin4par

is there a strong player on tour hitting graphite irons? IMO if you are stong enough you will loose feel when hitting graphite because the club will not be heavy enough to produce enough feedback.

Yes Monty uses graphite. He says he has never hit so many consistent shots with them but having said that he has a very repetitive swing with all his clubs.

**Scragger63** · 03-16-2007, 12:16 PM

Re: Steel or Graphite?

Originally posted by daviesec

Yes Monty uses graphite. He says he has never hit so many consistent shots with them but having said that he has a very repetitive swing with all his clubs.

As good a player as Monty was/is... when did he last win on tour...???

**BrianW** · 03-16-2007, 01:15 PM

Re: Steel or Graphite?

Regarding graphite shafts and flex (and this is a turn around in thinking for me) is that after further consideration and study I do not think that shaft flex plays any real part in distance, I no longer subscribe to the belief that a flexible shaft will give a slow swinger or senior any added distance. The shaft will have bent forward before hitting the ball so will have lost any benefit from the the spring effect.

There are the questions on whether the flexibility assists some to square the face or whether it could create enough twisting to create direction problems, I think the jury may still be out on that one. I do think a lighter shaft assists with creating additional swing speed and modern composite materials allow shafts to be manufactured in many weights and flexes. Very few players now use steel shafts in Woods.

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