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    Bad News and Good News

    Good News I'm 40 this year and my wife asked what I would like, "a new set of clubs(irons)" , so off I went for a proper fitting, it's been 4 years since my last fitting.

    Last time I was 98mph swing speed, stiff shafts, 9 degree driver stiff shaft.


    Bad news I needed everything why, 88-92 MPH swing speed, which equates to (getting old) Regular shafts, more news to follow..........

    To achieve 14 degrees launch angle and 3000rpm backspin it was a 10.5 degree, reg shaft driver. Reg shaft 3 wood and rescue. As for my irons 1 degree flat reg shafts.
    He did comment I must be good to play to single figures with my old equipment.............not funny.


    Better news:

    Driver goes high, and higher but longer........3 wood & Rescue great, Irons feel like the balls flys off the face.

    So it's not all bad getting older, just have to loose a bit of macho shafts.


    Oh I know your thoughts

    Taylormade Burner Driver and 3 wood, cleveland rescue, R7 TP irons 2-P.........You can still have top clubs just a softer shaft.


    Ian.
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  • #2
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    Jeez Ian. When you get to my age you will be driving a sand wedge that has a rubber shaft.

    Great age mate, it's when life begins.

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    • #3
      Re: Bad News and Good News

      How exactly were you fitted? A launch monitor? I want to get fitted for my next set of clubs but am unsure how to go about it, do the big golf stores do this type of dynamic fitting or do you have to go see a specialist?

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      • #4
        Re: Bad News and Good News

        Originally posted by snowman View Post
        How exactly were you fitted? A launch monitor? I want to get fitted for my next set of clubs but am unsure how to go about it, do the big golf stores do this type of dynamic fitting or do you have to go see a specialist?
        Snowman, do not, under any circumstances, head to a big box store. Find a highly recommended fitter, or search for a fitter at www.proclubmakers.org

        The kid running the launch monitor at GolfTown likely doesn't know (or care) about the numbers much. He's been told to target a launch angle or spin number. It doesn't do ANYTHING for the type of shaft you should be playing, simply the approximate loft.

        Beyond that, hitting balls into a net with demo irons is not a fitting. Ball flight is king. Yes, when I test at my place, I use a lie board and whiffle balls (as I don't have a nearby range). However, I ask everyone to pay attention to their ballflight and make note. What good is a lie board middle mark if you lose balls right?

        Don't get me wrong - there are some real gems working in big box stores, but generally speaking reading a good book or two will give you just as much 'knowhow' as these folks have. Which is just enough to be dangerous.

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        • #5
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          Hi Snowman,

          Lowpost it quite correct, you need to go for a specialist fitting, I use the Belfry driving range, cost £50.00 and you get that back if you purchase, which you usually do.

          Firstly swing speed, find that by hitting balls past a light monitor, then start using a few drivers with different shafts about 20 to choose from !!!''nightmare'', the Taylormade Burner is a light club with a touch longer shaft, suited me mainly because I am a low H/capper and have no problem connecting with the ball, upped my swing speed by 2 mph too (about 10 yds)..... the launch angle and spin determines loft for maximum carry.

          As for the irons swing speed determines the shaft, then tape on the face for contact, also most important tape on the bottom, hit a few off a plastic board, the marks underneath determine the lie, taller people usually upright and shorter people a flater lie angle, this is so the club sits almost flat on the ground at address.

          Also had two wedges..major spend.

          Takes about two hours, then a weeks wait for your kit unless your standard.

          You also get a free round on the PGA course too.

          The guy's attending the GTO day will be envious.

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          • #6
            Re: Bad News and Good News

            Ian,
            Any ideas where you'll get the same kind of quality attention north of the border?

            Thanks

            J

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            • #7
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              hi prowlsta
              where about are you north of the border.
              you could try some of the ping pro shops and if you don't care for ping then you at least would have a print out of your grip size, shaft type and swing weight, lie, you have about 8 different lies to try and at least 6 shafts types and i think 8 grip sizes, i found pings fitting service to be first class.
              not sure what lowpost things of pings fitting service but they were the first big company to only sell fitted clubs and they don't sell standard clubs at there pro outlets her in the uk only fitted sets.

              ian
              did you use 1% flat clubs before your fitting?
              bill

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              • #8
                Re: Bad News and Good News

                I think Ping was way ahead of its time (and still is).

                However, no OEM can really get you clubs that truly fit (especially if you believe in TLT, as I do).

                I've learned about a shaft fitting system where we look at clubhead speed, tempo time and release point to determine shaft flex. I've taped myself and taken my numbers, now I'm waiting on a shaft or two to come in to try. The shaft I've been defaulting to (AccuFLEX Evolution) is slightly stiffer across the board than what's been recommended to me. So we'll see. I've got an Aldila NV coming as well as a VS Proto.

                If you don't have a guy over there to show you TLT, then you're really missing out - unless I can find a way to run some sort of demo over there.

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                • #9
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                  hi lowpost
                  up here in Scotland there are a few really good clubmakers that like your good self build a club from scratch, there is one not far from me near north berwick and he had a waiting list of about 3 months as he is that busy. but for most of us the big makers have always teased us more with there club than the clubmaker. i think ping led the way with there club fitting and now the others are starting to catch up callaway being second to ping in club fitting now. i agree about going to a big golf shop that has a kid checking your swing and reading off a sheet on the Monitor and then telling you what you need, that no good at all. sorry to keep harping on about ping but i do know about them, with ping its the golf pro or his assistant that checks you not some shop worker and you often get tips on your swing as well as club fitting.
                  club fitting is the way to go and even clone type head on a well fitted shaft can play better than top brand clubs bought out a store and not fitted.
                  by the way i just finished ( the search for the perfect golf club.) i understand why you think so much of Tom Wishon now.
                  cheers
                  bill

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                  • #10
                    Re: Bad News and Good News

                    I agree that the big names are certainly coming along, but still can't touch a clubmaker. It's awesome to hear the guy close by has a 3 month waiting list - the word is out!

                    FWIW, Tom fully endorses True Length Technology. The rumour is he's running a workshop in Europe. The link is here: TWGT Seminar Announcement - Jakobsberg

                    It looks like it starts in Malmo, Sweden, at the EPGA Teaching and Coaching summit, but Tom will also be visiting Jakobsberg, Germany for a one day fling on Oct. 15. It would be worth the price of admission, IMO, to attend and ask Tom what he thinks of OEM fitting vs clubmaker fittings (but you can guess the answer).

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