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**golfndawg** · 10-12-2007, 09:49 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Originally posted by blugolfer View Post

I've been as low as 8 handicap and mainly played around 10 for the last 10 years but now I fear I have to give up the game.

The reason? The shanks.

I've had them for two years. I've not had more than a couple of weeks respite in all that time. Until recently the best I could hope for is only a couple in a round but now it's got so bad that every single shot is a shank! Sounds impossible doesn't it? I wish it was. I've tried every cure. None has worked on the course.

I'm really gutted to be giving up the game because I have had some great times but I cannot continue any longer. I feel a bit like someone whose partner has left him and who decides to 'end it all'.

Cheerio.

Hey there,

As a single digit myself I just got back from the range ,bought me a large bucket to work on a few things as the shanks and hooks have came back into my life for whatever reason.....Well I like I said I got the bucket warmed up a bit (practice swings not hitting balls) with my wedge...Decided to start hitting the ball.....My very first shot hit the flag (125 yds)...Then all hell broke loose as I shanked the next 20-25 balls with the wedge or my 8.....I was so pissed I just left threw my bag into the bed of my truck and on the way home I was thinking the same thing.......I AM DONE WITH THIS BS...TOO FRUSTRATING,PUT TOO MUCH TIME INTO IT TO SEE THESE RESULTS....Like I said this was just about an hour ago........I have no answers but I sure feel the pain

**blugolfer** · 10-12-2007, 10:01 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Been there, mate.

What has pissed me off more than anything is that last night I hit 60 odd balls in the net and didn't shank one shot. Today on the course, I shanked my first from a bunker on the first.

After the 12th hole, I shanked every single shot (and usually I shank only half wedge shots). Every shot!!!

It's pathetic but I could have cried on the way home!! And I'm a 47 year old bloke!

I've decided I just don't need it any more.

**takinitdeep** · 10-12-2007, 10:12 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

You stuck with it for all this time through tough times so you know you love the game, why not just get a pro to help you and get back to playing the game you love again and having fun.
I have played for almost 50 years-started when I was 5 and yes, there were times I wanted to chuck it. Everyone has those times, even almighty c.mays-just kidding so don't go off on me curtis-anyway, look ahead, stick with it, get pro help, and in a very short time, you can look back on these times and laugh.
I find that I don't learn much when things are going well but if I hit a slump I see things fresh and new.

Originally posted by blugolfer View Post

Been there, mate.

What has pissed me off more than anything is that last night I hit 60 odd balls in the net and didn't shank one shot. Today on the course, I shanked my first from a bunker on the first.

After the 12th hole, I shanked every single shot (and usually I shank only half wedge shots). Every shot!!!

It's pathetic but I could have cried on the way home!! And I'm a 47 year old bloke!

I've decided I just don't need it any more.

**golfndawg** · 10-12-2007, 10:12 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

I understand wanting to give it up.......I don't know what other hobbies you have but for me I don't have any that I take serious like this and my wife says now what are you going to do quit the game and make me and you both miserable

...So I guess I outta check my clubs and make sure nothing is broken because there is always tomorrow, and tomorrow might be the same thing, I don't know but I am going to try and stay afloat because this game is not going to whoop me......And I hope you would rethink since it is a part of life

**killer** · 10-12-2007, 11:13 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Hey friend,

I know you may have given up by now on cures for this afflication that visits most of us at some time or other,

A really good tip I was given, was when addressing the ball you would usually place your weight middle to front of your feet,
well if you favour your weight being middle to back of your feet this may well prevent you from shanking. you may well think this nonsense but give it a go, as golf is a beautifull game to be enjoyed at all levels.

let me know if it works.

regards
killer

**LowPost42** · 10-12-2007, 11:31 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

The only cure I know is to play the ball off the toe of the club. You really, REALLY have to put a bad move on it to find the hosel then.

**golfndawg** · 10-12-2007, 11:49 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Originally posted by killer View Post

Hey friend,

I know you may have given up by now on cures for this afflication that visits most of us at some time or other,

A really good tip I was given, was when addressing the ball you would usually place your weight middle to front of your feet,
well if you favour your weight being middle to back of your feet this may well prevent you from shanking. you may well think this nonsense but give it a go, as golf is a beautifull game to be enjoyed at all levels.

let me know if it works.

regards
killer

I don't know about blugolfer but I have tried this and is just a quick fix for me......Something hit me just a bit ago and went searching for my recorded videos of the pro's from the golf channel academy which I have days of footage of and noticed that the shoulders clear (or open) at impact as well as the hips just not as much....I also have video of my swing and my shoulders are NOT open or clear at impact which tells me I am trying to turn my hips with closed shoulders which from what I feel is throwing everything from my body out causing the club head to move out(hence) SHANK!!!!......So we will work on dropping the club on the downswing and let the shoulders open and see what happens tomorrow. We're running out of lights at the tunnel my friend but we must not give up........lol

**chessbum** · 10-13-2007, 12:27 AM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Dear bluegolfer,

I know how frustrating it can be. I have been there. But one of the great things about golf is that it gives you the opportunity to call up some real moxie and courage. It teaches you lessons about yourself. Will you feel as good about yourself, if you give up because you haven't tried hard enough to find and answer?

When Sam Snead developed a case of the yips so bad, he starting putting between his legs. When the PGA outlawed that method, he starting putting sidesaddle. Now that is the way to handle it. Remember, if it doesn't kill you, it only makes you stronger!!

A lot of people will tell you to go to a pro for lessons. I've tried them, for the most part, it's not for me. That works for a lot of people. As for me, I try to figure it out for myself. I use whatever means I can, reading books, videos, you name it. I really think the more you know about your own swing the better off you are.

So, make a pact with yourself right now. Determine that in the long run this episode will make you all the better golfer. Someday you will be giving advice to someone on how you cured yourself of the shanks and how it helped your game and understanding of your own swing.

Now get going.....Start with a FULL SHOULDER TURN....

Good luck and don't do yourself a disservice by giving up this great game....

Chessbum.....

**golfndawg** · 10-13-2007, 12:45 AM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Originally posted by cmays View Post

Blu:

If you are not swinging too far to the inside are you rolling your front forearm in the backswing?

This often shows up on wedge shots.

People will roll the clubface open on the backswing, if they are right handed it locks the left wrist, the weight of the club is behind the left hand and they never obtain release.

That is why it is important to roll the clubface open for a lofted or sand shot and not the arms.

If you are a right hander, push the left forearm straight out in front of you with the wrist fully hinged and swing back and forth and feel the non-release and the wrist being locked up.

Dawg:

With your strong grip and upright swing are you pushing out on the club with your right hand in the downswing?

If you swing in the downswing with the left hand in control the club will travel with the body back and forth, if you swing with the right hand in the downswing you come around and out.

Swing your left arm, it moves up and down, swing the right arm, it moves in and out the same as when we throw a ball.

**The hands control the shoulders.**

You Guys:

Makes me cry from all the sad stories, Boo, Hoooooooo.

Tao/Dao- find the right path to travel down upon. The Way.

I just think I'm trying to get alot more clearing of the hips and the right arm against the side (hogan drawing)pg.94 and 95 on 5 lessons ,and to be honest the more I try that the worse it is. I cannot feel that move and by looking at the pics again at 3/4 down all I see is SHANK especially when I've worked on right elbow below left arm.....

I dunno Mr.C gettin ugly around here

P.S. Mr.C How about coming down to Midland,Tx. Tomorrow or Sunday and us watching the Nationwide tour boys get it on( and maybe use their range)lol......I'm open

**golfndawg** · 10-13-2007, 01:16 AM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Originally posted by cmays View Post

Blu:

If you are not swinging too far to the inside are you rolling your front forearm in the backswing?

This often shows up on wedge shots.

People will roll the clubface open on the backswing, if they are right handed it locks the left wrist, the weight of the club is behind the left hand and they never obtain release. The heel of the club is thrown outwards.

That is why it is important to roll the clubface open for a lofted or sand shot and not the arms.

If you are a right hander, push the left forearm straight out in front of you with the wrist fully hinged and swing back and forth and feel the non-release and the wrist being locked up.

Keep the left hand knuckles down towards the ground in the backswing, flat left wrist if you are a right hander if you are rolling the left hand knuckles up towards the sky in the backswing. Left hander/reverse.

The weight on the left leg is important also or even open the stance a little, drop your front foot back, square the clubface. There is a solution.

Dawg:

With your strong grip and upright swing are you pushing out on the club with your right hand in the downswing?

If you swing in the downswing with the left hand in control the club will travel with the body back and forth in a upward and downward movement, if you swing with the right hand in the downswing you come around and out.

Swing your left arm, it moves up and down, swing the right arm, it moves in and out the same as when we throw a ball.

**The hands control the shoulders. In fact the thumb and index finger of the right hand also.**

You Guys:

Makes me cry from all the sad stories, Boo, Hoooooooo.

Tao/Dao- find the right path to travel down upon. The Way.

Originally posted by cmays View Post

If you are playing the strong grip and continue to swing more upwards and try to clear the hips like Hogan, you are on the wrong boat to China. It's throwing the right side out in the downswing.

What's the shank? Throwing the heel of the club out.

The lady golf instructor, you should of called me after the lesson so I could have entertained her.

There is only one way to have a strong grip and a 1 Plane Swing like Hogan.

When you grip the club with the left hand, the left elbow must be pointed outwards, place your right hand on and then you can turn the elbows in if you like. After turning them in at address, allow them to relax.

1 and 2 Plane swings do not mix and match.

Stock Market may crash, let me get ready to jump out of the 1st floor window.

LOL.........About the female...........go back and look at my edit P.S.

**golfndawg** · 10-13-2007, 02:02 AM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Originally posted by cmays View Post

They may not think it so funny if I showed up with my cane pole and broom on their range.

Well theres other ranges around.............But i'm gonna catch the tourny wish you could join....Could be a blast

**ilang** · 10-13-2007, 10:03 AM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

The clue was you usually shank half wedge shots.There are many reasons for shanking "touch wood" I have never had them.In you're case i would say its due to lack of hand action,,"deceleration'.
Attack the ball more,the fear of shanking makes one, very fearful of acceleration into the ball.
I suffered a long time from gudging chip shots,I nearly gave up,but worked through it and now very rarely do it anymore.Its a form of the Yip's,in putting.
Work through it you can do it,get back on the course,pronto.

**blugolfer** · 10-13-2007, 10:36 AM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Gudging chip shots?

If that's the yips as you say it is, I've got that too! A sudden involuntary lurch at the ball? That's me. I know it's in my head too because I only ever do it in a competition. Ridiculous but true.

**golfndawg** · 10-13-2007, 05:02 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Just got back from the range only to see the same results as last night.....S*H*A*N*K*E*D* over half the bucket and it was also a pleasure to do it in front of people that have seen me post some low scores......It didn't matter what I did from feet together, to less hip movement, to looping the club(Trevino),to weaker grip, it didn't matter....Oh and the one's I didn't shank they were hooks.........HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.....I just have to laugh at this, I can't get mad anymore as it is becoming something normal again.....The shock of seeing these shots is over, it's more or less to be expected.......Just rediculious

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