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**blugolfer** · 10-13-2007, 05:18 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

I can never laugh at this terrible disease. Good on you that you can.

I know what you mean about feeling better about shanking in front of people who know you can play because I've been to the range and shanked it in front of strangers and I wanted to shout out "Hey, I'm 9 handicap and I can play. Honestly."

Shouldn't make any difference really but it's just like being reduced to one of those totally hopeless cases you see only at the range. You know the type; wood-choppers swing, stranglehold grip and even worse set-up.

Jeez.

**bill reed** · 10-13-2007, 05:27 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

hi golfndawg
the thing is, next time you go out for a game you will play out your skin and forget all the bad days you cant hit a ball till the next time it goes wrong again, thats why we keep coming back, the fact is we never master the game it always wins.
bill

**GolfJunkieSr** · 10-13-2007, 06:52 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Been there, and done that myself many, many years ago. My suggestion and what has helped me over the years on various swing problems is find, and understand the causes of poor shots.

In your case, learn why a ball is shanked off the club head. Not just the part about it hitting the hosel, but from your address position, all the way through to the shanked impact with the ball.

Once you know, and understand the why part, then you can compare your own swing, and know what you are doing wrong. Understanding why a poorly struck ball flies like it does will usually keep a golfer from hitting too many bad shots. They simply know what not to do. Another plus about being educated about poor ball flights is that you can fix poor swing problems by yourself, in a more timely manner.

Swing tips from others is not a bad thing, but knowing your own swing tips, and/or repairs when problems pop up will make for more enjoyable rounds of golf.

It's just not always about knowing how to swing the club head properly. It is just as important to know how to repair a bad swing, or impact position when needed.

Quitting is not the answer. Understanding the "why" part is the answer you are looking for. GJS

**arny660** · 10-13-2007, 07:41 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

I think I know the answer!

**golfndawg** · 10-13-2007, 07:45 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Originally posted by arny660 View Post

What are we supposed to say here...OH No.. please don`t give up the game you have played and loved for 20 years.. please don`t. or...

Quite frankly, I don`t give a toss whether you give it up or not.

I think I know the answer!

LOL......Little boy ,why don't you just take you're smartass mouth somewhere else.

**arny660** · 10-13-2007, 07:59 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

I`m not being smart

**golfndawg** · 10-13-2007, 08:16 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Worried?.......Believe me I am not worried.......Anyway, usually the way things go is to try and help or at least talk about stuff if someone is having problems......Not come across with the comments like you did....But anyway, I don't know you and I know I really don't care about you, so go start problems somewhere else.......I know there's a few forums that like to get that kind of attention.

Later

**arny660** · 10-13-2007, 08:27 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Oh dear................

**bill reed** · 10-13-2007, 08:58 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

hi arny
there is no need for you to talk to people like that, this is a help forum and the aim to to help people play better and get more enjoyment out the game, i don't find your remarks at all helpful to anyone.
please if your going to post try and make it helpful or in some way a discussion about golf and not personal attacks on people.
thanks
bill

**golfndawg** · 10-13-2007, 09:20 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Originally posted by cmays View Post

Dawg:

Take your driver and wedge outside and make some very, very slow swings and see if you can see whats causing you to hit on the heel of the club.

Do not follow the clubhead back with the eyes, that will also cause shanking.

If I am going to teach the strong grip, I have them to do the Square to Square Method.

Feel you are swinginging more around the body into the right wrist hinge which in this case is hinged backwards and in the downswing you pull down with the left hand and arm. Hands need to be a little further out at address.

Well ,this is where it all begins, I worked on slow swings (nice rythm) and as many balls as I have hit over the years I can mimic my practice swing and put a ball in front using the same swing, SHANK.....The bad thing is when I had that lesson from the female(I appoligize for not hooking ya up). I didn't know you wanted to discuss up and downs...(LMAO) I was doing the same things the was taught to me and since that lesson the shanks were gone UNTIL the past couple of weeks and there not just showing a couple here and there , there coming full force.......The more I try to keep the shaft angle on the downswing pointing at the target line,the shankier they get.........Or, now this a funny one actually had a few of these today that I forgot about 'til now (a spinning top shot) WITH A WEDGE......These had so much topspin you could here it....Now I've topped balls before with fairway woods or maybe driver off the deck,but with a wedge? Come on.......Maybe hit it fat or skull it BUT TOP IT?

Like I said I can only laugh.......Or maybe take up knitting as our new member suggests......

**bulldog2k** · 10-13-2007, 09:25 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Arny, you have a very low post count, and that may suggest you don't know how things are done round here.

If you don't want to help, go find some trash-talking Xbox forum or something. If you need help with an element of your game, by all means post up. There are plenty of golfers with more knowledge and skill than you can possibly imagine. But round here, we're all comrades in arms; no probs if you don't like it. Just don't expect anyone to be on your side.

Close the door on your way out

**golfndawg** · 10-13-2007, 10:21 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

Originally posted by cmays View Post

Takinitdeep also has said something in the past.

You can also stand too close to the ball and your arms and hands do not have room to work.

In the upright swing, 2 Plane, you can be a little closer.

I get onto people who grip the club at the same level. Left hand it does not matter too much, the right hand I want to see lower when you grip it.

Have the right hand on top and it opens the shoulders up and forces the club around on an outside path.

When you stick the club out in front of you around chest high, is the toe of the club up or turned to the right? If you are going to error, it's better to error with having the toe turned a little left to match your chest angle.

Soooo Many things that can lead to shanking. Most are common.

2 balls side by side, about three inches apart, address the outside and see if you can hit the one on the inside. That is the same as addressing the ball on the heel and trying to hit the toe on the downswing.

Or:

There is addressing on the toe of the club and try to hit the heel of the club.

I actually had a 2x4 about a ball or 2 outside the target line (to make sure I don't take the club too far outside the line) and a tee about 6-8" in front of the ball and just inside the board (if you can picture)to make sure I am not swinging ott on the downswing.....My goal was to not hit the board on the backswing or downswing,which I didn't and to hit the tee on the downswing, which I did but, well you know what the results were.

How about the right knee, could that be a factor if at the start of the downswing it kicks somewhat out and in thrusting my right hip out?.....Is this what you (cmays) was talking about the right side being thrown out?

**BrianW** · 10-13-2007, 11:00 PM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

If you are shanking (And I have had my problems with it) then you need to find the swing flaw and work on eliminating it. There has been some good advise here, TID's idea of getting help from an instructor is good, especially if you cant see the problem yourself, there will be a cause and there will be a way to fix it.

The same goes for topping, there is only one cause for this and it's hitting the ball at or above it's equator with the leading edge of the club, nothing else. The fix will be to stop doing it by hitting the ball on the sweetspot, again get some help if you don't know how. Dare I suggest that particular book, OK, OK no I won't!

Giving up should not be an option.

**ilang** · 10-14-2007, 12:03 AM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

When I read Arny's post's I thought i was on the political boards I sometimes go on.Very unusual on here.

This game can drive you mad sometimes and I have seen grown men throw their clubs into the lake on our 8th.Even a friend of mine introduced separate bed's into his marriage,maintaining that sex was getting in the way of his golf

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Our club champion of many times suffered from the shanks,he was a one handicapper.He had a very pronounced in to out swing, and shanked mainly with the short iron's.

Trevino after watching Hogan for many hours practice,was convinced his secret was the sliding of his hips into impact to produce a fade.He went away and copied his action( for hour's and hour's ) and said, "It sure made me hit the ball good,but it soon led to divorce"

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The point is there nothing better than hitting balls to solve a problem,just work through it.
Best to take you're wife with you maybe

**bulldog2k** · 10-14-2007, 06:34 AM

Re: After playing for 20 years I've played my last round today.

LOL ^^^

V funny, Cmays.

You know, I actually found myself wondering whether I should write that down somewhere or not

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