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Wishon 770CFE or 870Ti.

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Hi wiko,

Because you specifically mentioned those clubs, I take it you have an opportunity to pick them up (perhaps for a good price, which you are willing to pay for decent clubs).

The T-Zoid and 360 are about 10 years old "technology" and are not at the top of game improving or forgiving clubs for high handicappers. They are good clubs, and have been used by low handicappers, which may suggest they are players' clubs, although they are also servicable for regular golfers. I believe Mike Weir used the 360 and Goose used the 320 for a while on tour.

Of the three, the 822 OS may be the most forgiving, in regard to the oversize, the large cavity back, thin face, offset head (if this is something which appeals to you).

No matter which clubs you go for, you have to make sure the shaft is the right weight and flex for your swing. Too many golfers are playing with the wrong shafts (usually too stiff), which will hamper their games.

LowPost42 refers to one of the top game improving, forgiving clubs available. There are many other game improving, forgiving clubs out there, such as Callaway Fusion, Taylor Made CGB Max, etc, which are meant for mid and high handicappers and which a low handicapper would have no use for.

Ted

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In Bobby Clampett`s book, "The Impact Zone" he says that golf teacher, Chuck Hogan, has called blade irons true "game improvement clubs".

The reason being that the so-called "game improvement irons" of which there are so many on the market these days, trade the swing for the hit, because such irons can yield decent shots with undynamic swings. Your fundamentals can be pretty poor yet you still hit ok shots, and you`ll never know that you are doing it wrong. Keep on doing it wrong like this and you will then ingrain this feeling.

With blades, you`ll know right away if you are doing it wrong and adjust it accordingly.

Just a thought to throw in!

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thanks everyone, so many good improvement irons on the market, some of them are too bulky to know if your hitting the right type of shot..agree with arnys, post

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Well, the question I have for Bobby and Chuck is this:

When I'm on the course, should I be playing for the lowest score, or playing for the prettiest swing?

IMO, far, far too many golfers play golf swing on the golf course.

Ted mentions the low capper having no use for GI irons, yet Rocco Mediate plays the X22 irons - it doesn't really get more GI than that.

I know, Ted, that you're referring to workability and the ability to hit high and low - it can be completely done with GI clubs, but you have to over-exaggerate the move compared to a players cav or blade.

I guess what I'm driving at is what do you want the irons for? To score well or improve your golf swing?

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I agree with you, LowPost42.

The original post asked about three specific models of clubs and asked for recommended clubs to reduce handicap, and that's what I addressed.

Without a whole lot of the practice and effort, I'd never be able to play blades as well as with the help the GI clubs offer. Matter of fact, forget about the first part of the previous sentence, and leave it as the last part only. I'm 70 years old, and very strong and athletic, and play to about 12, with the odd game in the high seventies.

Ted

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But better swing fundamentals might improve your scoring ability. You might take a hit now, but you would be investing in the future. And as golf can be played well into old age, it mightn`t seem such a crazy idea, especially for younger players.

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I agree that a better swing can certainly help your scoring potential - but I'd rather have lessons to correct my swing, not my clubs. It's almost worth buying two sets - one for range work to groove the swing, and one for the course. I've gone so far as to buy the blade heads, but I haven't shafted them up yet.

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A little off subject but worth mentioning I think :

I was drawn with a partner in a club comp this week. The guy I played with was 75, slightly built and a 5 handicapper, he rode the course on his own small 3 wheeled buggy as he said he didn't have the strength to walk it anymore. His golf swing was beautiful and he could drive the ball a country mile with a beautiful draw, he hit most par 5 greens with his second shot using an 18 deg hybrid. He came in 4 over gross and won the money. I asked if he had played with a lower handicap when younger and he replied that he'd only started to play well after he was 70

Anyhow, I noticed he was using a nice set of Titleist forged clubs which he said were a 70th birthday present