My son in law picked up a 3 and 5 wood Autoclaves in mint condition other than a slight wear mark on the shaft of the 3 where it rubbed on the bag, otherwise brand new Even the grips are new. They have pushed my 2 Cleveland launchers out of the bag. I couldn't deny it any longer, a little heavier but looong and dead accurate,they just feel great to use. They have an interesting face design which might be creating more spin I dunno. They have the old rail things on the bottom and excellent stainless that doesn't seem to scratch even on dry fairways.I'm going to have these a long time, I am so impressed I believe I will recondition them one day in the distant future. I have been told the these graphites are considered the first that really competed with steel and changed shafts forever. Any one know much about them? I have been told they came out in the mid 90's. They should have stopped there, they are unique.