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    Putting rule???

    Ok. so there i was practicing my putting stroke. Moved up to the ball and for some strange reason i can't explain i had another practice stroke, but as i tried to pull out i hit the ball and knocked it 6 inches.

    Now the ruling that was played at the end of the day was i hit the ball so it was an extra shot... so i changed this on my scorecard and handed it in no problems.

    but what is the ruling.. by knocking it 6 inches ... clearly not an intentional stroke and i was going through a practise swing.

    i did read later that night in the rules that i take a 1 stroke penalty, but i can place the ball back on it's previous location........ is that right. or do i just not count the shot as it was a practice swing.
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  • #2
    Re: Putting rule???

    As you moved the ball accidentally (ie without making a legitimate stroke) then you get a 1 stroke penalty. You must the replace it. As you didn't, you get another penalty. Rule 18-2

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      Re: Putting rule???

      This has me puzzled.

      There is the rule, which says that a stroke is a forward stroke with the intention of striking the ball. In this case, only you can say if there was an intent, or it was an ill attempted practice stroke. When you are over a tee shot and you inadvertently touch the ball and it falls off the tee, there is no penalty, you just re-tee. Is this not the same?

      There is the other rule, that once you have addressed your ball (if you did, after taking the first practice stroke), the ball is in play, and if you accidentally cause your ball to move, or it moves after you have addressed
      it, you have to add a penalty stroke and replace your ball. This applies even though you may not even attempted the second practice stroke, which hit the ball, i.e. if the wind or slope caused the ball to move from it's rest position. If it only oscillates, no penalty.

      So which applies?

      In any case, if you did not replace your ball, there is a penalty.

      This may be subject to debate.

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      • #4
        Re: Putting rule???

        He's penalized for moving his ball in play; done with the practice stroke. So there is no stroke, just a penalty stroke.

        Then he's penalized for playing the ball from the wrong position.

        The difference with the tee shot is that when you knock your ball off the tee, it's not yet in play. You can knock it off 10 times (accidentally, of course) without it being in play. If you knock it off on purpose, that's intent, and a stroke.


        Put another way, you don't add a stroke for hitting the ball, and a penalty for moving it. You simply add the penalty and put your ball back.

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        • #5
          Re: Putting rule???

          Originally posted by rotator View Post
          This has me puzzled.

          There is the rule, which says that a stroke is a forward stroke with the intention of striking the ball. In this case, only you can say if there was an intent, or it was an ill attempted practice stroke.
          You told us it was a practice 'stroke' not a stroke with intent to strike the ball.

          When you are over a tee shot and you inadvertently touch the ball and it falls off the tee, there is no penalty, you just re-tee. Is this not the same?
          No. A ball on the tee is not yet in play. There is no penalty for moving a ball not yet in play.

          There is the other rule, that once you have addressed your ball (if you did, after taking the first practice stroke), the ball is in play, and if you accidentally cause your ball to move, or it moves after you have addressed
          it, you have to add a penalty stroke and replace your ball. This applies even though you may not even attempted the second practice stroke, which hit the ball, i.e. if the wind or slope caused the ball to move from it's rest position. If it only oscillates, no penalty.
          Yes, that is covered by rule 18-2b

          So which applies?
          In your original scenario rule 18-2a applies

          This may be subject to debate.
          I think not

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          • #6
            Re: Putting rule???

            Thanks LowPost42, a succinct answer, as usual. I not catch the subtle difference about the tee situation, being that the ball is not in play until it's fairly struck. I got caught up in the intentional/not intentional reason.

            Ted

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            • #7
              Re: Putting rule???

              Originally posted by rotator View Post
              Thanks LowPost42, a succinct answer, as usual. I not catch the subtle difference about the tee situation, being that the ball is not in play until it's fairly struck. I got caught up in the intentional/not intentional reason.

              Ted
              The only reason I know this is that I started golfing with a guy who liked to take his practice swing right beside his ball, and would hit it once per round, sometimes more. He'd tell me there's no penalty for hitting the ball because he didn't mean to hit it. I'd tell him he's right - there's no stroke, but there's a penalty for moving his ball. I'd tell him that he could use his club, his foot, his cart, whatever - he makes it move OTHER THAN because of a stroke, he takes a penalty. I didn't want to get into 'ball moves during a stroke'...

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              • #8
                Re: Putting rule???

                The only reason I know this is that I started golfing with a guy who liked to take his practice swing right beside his ball,

                It wasn't Stephen Ames was it

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