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    Watching the putting line

    Hi guys,

    An issue came up in last Sat comp(stroke round) about standing behind someone while they are putting to get a read on the break in the green. Two guys said it wasn't legal and the other was "no comment". I am sure I have seen some pros do it on tv but don't know where to check it in the rules book. Can anyone shed some light.

    Christopher
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    Re: Watching the putting line

    hi
    not aloud to stand on the line of the putt, that behind or in front of the line when someone os putting. standing a foot or two to the side is fine but not one the line.
    you will always see some caddies look along the line as the player sets up and he helps line the players putt up. but then takes one step away as he putts.
    cheers
    Bill

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    • #3
      Re: Watching the putting line

      It's a matter of etiquette to not stand on a putting line that is not your own (or cast a shadow on that line).

      It's against the rules to stand on or astride your own putting line.

      There is no putting line behind your ball, or beyond the cup.

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      • #4
        Re: Watching the putting line

        hi
        rule 16.1 and rule 8.2
        cheers
        bill

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        • #5
          Re: Watching the putting line

          Rule 14-2
          When making a stroke a player must not allow his caddie, his partner or his partner's caddie to position himself on or close to an extension of the line of play or the line of putt behind the ball.

          For everyone else it is a matter of etiquette.
          Last edited by aaa; 11-09-2010, 04:49 PM.

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          • #6
            Re: Watching the putting line

            Thanks for the replies.

            I have read the rules quoted and all of them refer to assistance of the player making the putt. In stroke play the other players are opposition and so it appears to be more an idea of etiquette. Would this be accurate?

            Christopher

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            • #7
              Re: Watching the putting line

              Originally posted by ReefBoy View Post
              Thanks for the replies.

              I have read the rules quoted and all of them refer to assistance of the player making the putt. In stroke play the other players are opposition and so it appears to be more an idea of etiquette. Would this be accurate?

              Christopher
              i would say its more a case of etiquette based on the rules about standing on a players line. i think it the same as standing in a players eyeline when he about to drive off. i think most of us stand behind ther paying without thinking about it.
              try writing to the R&A and get there views. they normaly get back to you within 10 days.
              Cheers
              Bill

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              • #8
                Re: Watching the putting line

                Thanks Bill,

                I'll take your suggestion and see what the R&A say.

                Christopher

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                • #9
                  Re: Watching the putting line

                  Email has been sent, I'll post up the reply when I get it.

                  Christopher

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                  • #10
                    Re: Watching the putting line

                    Originally posted by ReefBoy View Post
                    Thanks for the replies.

                    I have read the rules quoted and all of them refer to assistance of the player making the putt. In stroke play the other players are opposition and so it appears to be more an idea of etiquette. Would this be accurate?

                    Christopher
                    In strokeplay the other players are not opposition. They are fellow competitors (FCs). Opponent(s) are the opposition in matchplay.

                    The rule (14-2) does not prohibit FCs or opponents standing behind a player. It only prohibits his partner or their caddies. As you say it is about assistance to the player.

                    Everone else is covered by


                    Section I ETIQUETTE; BEHAVIOR ON THE COURSE

                    Players should not stand close to or directly behind the ball, or directly behind the hole, when a player is about to play.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Watching the putting line

                      Originally posted by ReefBoy View Post
                      Thanks Bill,

                      I'll take your suggestion and see what the R&A say.

                      Christopher
                      No need to email. It's all in the book

                      Edited.

                      Too late, you've been and gorn and done it.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Watching the putting line

                        I think you just have to stand to the side, then look at the line once the putt has been struck. This shouldn't cause any questioning!

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                        • #13
                          Re: Watching the putting line

                          Hi guys,

                          Here is the reply I got from R&A.

                          Christopher


                          Dear Christopher

                          Thank you for your reply.

                          Rule 14-2 applies to the player’s partner or either of their caddies. Therefore, there is no penalty if a fellow-competitor or opponent stands on an extension of the line whilst a player is putting. However, should a player request that the person move from the extension of the line, the Etiquette of the game would suggest, it is appropriate to do so.

                          I hope that this is of assistance.

                          Kind regards

                          SHONA McRAE
                          Manager - Rules of Golf
                          The R&A, St Andrews, Fife, Scotland, KY16 9JD
                          Tel: +44 (0) 1334 460000; Fax: ++44 (0) 1334 460003

                          Rule 14-2 Assistance
                          In making a stroke, a player must not:
                          accept physical assistance or protection from the elements; or
                          allow his caddie, his partner or his partner’s caddie to position himself on or close to an extension of the line of play or the line of putt behind the ball.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Watching the putting line

                            I'm glad Shona agreed with me

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                            • #15
                              Re: Watching the putting line

                              Originally posted by aaa View Post
                              I'm glad Shona agreed with me
                              I think it is going to be an effort for my mates to suck it up tomorrow and acknowledge I was right also.

                              Christopher

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