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    This rules issue arose during a recent match I was involved in. I remain unhappy with the resolution reached on the day and wish to clarify before the return match in a few weeks.
    The course where the match was played is situated in the Dandenong Ranges here in Victoria, is very hilly and has been subject to much torrential rain during the past month or so. As such, a Local Rule was in place allowing preferred lies "through the green".
    A ball had come to rest on some crushed rock that had been laid in what appeared to be a water run off area at the bottom of a hill. The area was clearly not marked as a water hazard.
    When relief was sought under the preferred lies local rule, the opponent stated the area was clearly a water hazard and as such, not through the green and suggested the ball be played as it lies.
    My belief is that under Rule 33.2 all water hazards MUST be marked and as the area was not marked as a water hazard, the area was through the green and the preferred lie was available.
    Any feedback would be appreciated.
    Cheers

  • #2
    Re: Water hazard marked or not...?

    As it was a match you should have played it as you thought right and if your opponent made a timely claim, sorted it out with the committee at the end of the round.

    However, even if the committee were at fault in not marking the area as a WH but it satifies the definition, it should be played as a WH
    See Decision 26/3

    http://www.usga.org/workarea/linkit....mid=14305#26/3
    Last edited by aaa; 04-28-2011, 07:42 AM.

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    • #3
      Re: Water hazard marked or not...?

      It sounds to me that the area would be defined as 'Casual Water' or 'Ground under Repair' and as such full relief would be made.

      I would also say that if the area were to be a 'Water Hazard' it should be staked acordingly. Otherwise how could any visiting player know it was a hazard?
      Last edited by BrianW; 04-28-2011, 09:44 AM.

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      • #4
        Re: Water hazard marked or not...?

        Originally posted by BrianW View Post
        I would also say that if the area were to be a 'Water Hazard' it should be staked acordingly. Otherwise how could any visiting player know it was a hazard?
        By reading the definition.

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        • #5
          Re: Water hazard marked or not...?

          Thanks aaa...

          Despite not being marked as such, the area in question certainly did satisfy the definition.

          That Decision does help clarify the situation for me.

          Cheers.

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          • #6
            Re: Water hazard marked or not...?

            Originally posted by aaa View Post
            By reading the definition.
            I am still not convinced. The rule 26/3 refers to the limits of a water hazard, the area refered to by the Op was IMO not a hazard or extension of a hazard but a part of the course through the green (crushed rock that had been laid in what appeared to be a water run off area at the bottom of a hill. )

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            • #7
              Re: Water hazard marked or not...?

              Well Scragger saw it and seems satisfied it matches the definition.
              If it does, it is. If it doesn't, it isn't.

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              • #8
                Re: Water hazard marked or not...?

                Originally posted by aaa View Post
                If it does, it is. If it doesn't, it isn't.
                Can't disagree with that.

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                • #9
                  Re: Water hazard marked or not...?

                  If it was a serious match, I would have played 2 balls and asked the pro after the round. Or, get on your cell phone and call the proshop for a ruling.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Water hazard marked or not...?

                    Originally posted by mdscpa View Post
                    If it was a serious match, I would have played 2 balls and asked the pro after the round. Or, get on your cell phone and call the proshop for a ruling.
                    You can't play two balls in a match. This option (rule 3-3) only applies to stroke play.

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