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    My playing partner and I had a situation last week which means we are now out of the competition, can you enlighten me on this ruling.

    Here goes:

    We arrived on the tee for our first foresomes match due to a couple of let downs so we hadn't actually had to play a match (please note), our competitors had played two rounds previous one against the club match secretary and his partner the week before. They walked onto the tee and anounced they had 28 shots combined, we stated only 14 combined, giving them 14 shots, they had a score card and said 7/8s is 12 shots to us. So we agreed and comenced play, needless to say with 4 par threes in their index they thrashed us 5/4.

    It has now come to light that the should have played 3/8ths giving them only 5 shots, I think they new this as they had played several matches already and we hadn't although I agree we should have know the rules before play commenced and corrected their claim for 12 shots. They were disqualified and we were declared winners two days later.
    Following a complaint from their side a commitee meeting was held and the game given back to them as we should have know the rules before the start of the match and agreed to give them 12 shots at the start so the result stands.

    Can anyone enlighten me on the exact ruling for this in my opinion is good old cheating and due to our lack of knowledge they took advantage in what should be a game of etiquite.


    Ian.

    Very disgruntled.

  • #2
    Re: Forsomes rules

    As you should know by now you have a HC.

    And that HC is secured at the start of play.

    If the comp is then played and the team after deducting the 3/8ths difference uses a higher amount of shots than is allocated by the book, bad luck on team that lets them get away with it.

    Rule: 6-2a/6
    Wrong handicap allowance used in match.

    Answer

    The Committee should rule that the match stands as played.
    The players failed to take note of the conditions of the competition (rule 6-1) and have only themselves to blame.

    We all try to learn this game , but it takes very little time to read the rules, before a comp?

    Sorry about that, maybe you too will read the rules before playing again?
    Last edited by Cliff; 08-22-2005, 01:39 PM.

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    • #3
      Re: Forsomes rules

      Every sympathy but remember, the Conditions of Competition are as important as the Rules of Golf.

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      • #4
        Re: Forsomes rules

        Originally posted by Cliff View Post
        As you should know by now you have a HC.

        And that HC is secured at the start of play.

        If the comp is then played and the team after deducting the 3/8ths difference uses a higher amount of shots than is allocated by the book, bad luck on team that lets them get away with it.

        Rule: 6-2a/6
        Wrong handicap allowance used in match.

        Answer

        The Committee should rule that the match stands as played.
        The players failed to take note of the conditions of the competition (rule 6-1) and have only themselves to blame.

        We all try to learn this game , but it takes very little time to read the rules, before a comp?

        Sorry about that, maybe you too will read the rules before playing again?
        Hi Guys, I was just wondering is there any easy formula to use to work out these situations where 7/8th 3/8th difference.

        Thanks
        Last edited by killer; 11-28-2009, 01:49 PM. Reason: spelling

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        • #5
          Re: Forsomes rules

          Originally posted by killer View Post
          Hi Guys, I was just wondering is there any easy formula to use to work out these situations where 7/8th 3/8th difference.

          Thanks
          The scale in the attached link gives the normal fractions used in comps:

          http://www.golfalot.com/LucyLocket/Handicaps.aspx

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          • #6
            Re: Forsomes rules

            Originally posted by BrianW View Post
            The scale in the attached link gives the normal fractions used in comps:

            http://www.golfalot.com/LucyLocket/Handicaps.aspx
            Thanks Brian,
            I was wondering if there is a quick mathematical formula golfers can use to work out the differences. ie we were playing a doubles greensome comp and the hanicaps are as always taken from the lowest in the group, the remaining shots were calculated at 3/8th of the combined handicap.

            Many times I witness other players struggling with the calculations. Therfore I wondered was there an easy way to work it out whilst on the tee using mental arithmatic. I hope iam not coming across as Blonde LOL

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            • #7
              Re: Forsomes rules

              Originally posted by killer View Post
              Thanks Brian,
              I was wondering if there is a quick mathematical formula golfers can use to work out the differences. ie we were playing a doubles greensome comp and the hanicaps are as always taken from the lowest in the group, the remaining shots were calculated at 3/8th of the combined handicap.

              Many times I witness other players struggling with the calculations. Therfore I wondered was there an easy way to work it out whilst on the tee using mental arithmatic. I hope iam not coming across as Blonde LOL
              Well, I would do it this way:

              3/8 = .378 which rounded to the nearest Integer = 0.4
              (Likewise 0.9 can be used for 7/8 and 0.8 for 3/4.)

              Its fairly easy to work out 0.4 of a number rounded to the nearest Integer:

              10 = 4 = 4
              6 = 2.4 = 2
              8 = 3.2 = 3
              16 = 6.4 = 6
              18 = 7.2 = 7

              And so on. I hope this helps.

              NB - .5 is normally rounded upwards
              Last edited by BrianW; 12-12-2009, 04:48 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: Forsomes rules

                Just to point out that 3/8 and 7/8 are no longer used in the UK.

                1/2 for foursomes and 3.4 for fourball are mandatory.

                This is pretty well standard throughout the world.

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