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    Hi Everyone,

    I would like to offer my imput on Lateral Line [sidesaddle] putting to anyone who would like to learn more and perhaps give it a try at some point. Although I am the inventor of a putter for this style, I am here more to develope a better understanding of a style itself that has not really been well developed or explained in the past. A book called "Golfs Sacred Journey" written by David Cook, which has become a golfers favorite, is being made into a movie. In the book and the movie, there is a compeling argument made as to the advantages of looking at the cup while putting that will open many eyes and change the way we putt a ball.

    thanks for this forum,
    John Ambrose

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    hi
    i have been using the sidesaddle putting systen for over three years now and i find the bigest plus is looking at the hole with both eyes. you seem to judge the pace of the ball so much better. i have found that putting this way always leaves me close to the hole even when i miss read the line.
    also the only moving part in the putt if the right arm, and it just a swing back and down towards the hole. the face of the putter stays on line all through the putt. no closing or opening.
    the way i put i feel like the palm of my right hand point to the hole all through the swing.
    i also feel the Ping Putter i have just fits me to a tee.
    cheers
    Bill

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    • #3
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      It would make sense, actually, to use binocular vision when putting - every other "put the object in/through the target" sport embraces this idea.

      Also, for feel, I find when I take my lower hand and pretend to throw a ball towards the target I always end up closer than when I don't - so to putt while looking at the target and using the dominant hand for feel makes great sense.

      Maybe I'll be going side-saddle with a broomhandle in the near future...

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        Originally posted by LowPost42 View Post
        It would make sense, actually, to use binocular vision when putting - every other "put the object in/through the target" sport embraces this idea.

        Also, for feel, I find when I take my lower hand and pretend to throw a ball towards the target I always end up closer than when I don't - so to putt while looking at the target and using the dominant hand for feel makes great sense.

        Maybe I'll be going side-saddle with a broomhandle in the near future...
        Hi Ben
        what you have just said is how it really feels, maybe you should make a long shafted putter and try it out. just run the shaft up your right arm to your shoulder and then swing the right arm. your left hand just suports it against the shoulder.
        i think you will be very suprised with the instant results. you are able to judge distance by feel in your right hand with ease. you don't so much think about the distance of the putt as feel it by looking with both eyes.
        if it did not work i would not be using it.
        all the best
        Bill

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by bill reed View Post
          Hi Ben
          what you have just said is how it really feels, maybe you should make a long shafted putter and try it out. just run the shaft up your right arm to your shoulder and then swing the right arm. your left hand just suports it against the shoulder.
          i think you will be very suprised with the instant results. you are able to judge distance by feel in your right hand with ease. you don't so much think about the distance of the putt as feel it by looking with both eyes.
          if it did not work i would not be using it.
          all the best
          Bill
          Actually Bill, I'm a southpaw. So I'd become one of those crazy guys who hits right and putts left... but it certainly merits some consideration on the Boomerang over the winter - my putting was very streaky this year as I'd end up not being able to make anything inside 5 feet but would drain some 30 and 40 footers for to salvage a par or keep double off the card.

          I may just find myself a LH head and build up the broomstick.

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            Originally posted by LowPost42 View Post
            Actually Bill, I'm a southpaw. So I'd become one of those crazy guys who hits right and putts left... but it certainly merits some consideration on the Boomerang over the winter - my putting was very streaky this year as I'd end up not being able to make anything inside 5 feet but would drain some 30 and 40 footers for to salvage a par or keep double off the card.

            I may just find myself a LH head and build up the broomstick.
            Hi Ben
            the best i have done on the boomerang is 14, have done it a few times now but every time i try and flim it 10 is my best.
            the only other thing is having such a long putter in your bag when you carry it, it makes the bag a bit clumsy. not so bad on a trolly
            cheers
            Bill
            Last edited by bill reed; 10-26-2010, 05:40 PM.

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            • #7
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              Hi Guys,
              The biggest thing that keeps looking at the hole to putt from taking off is in the club designs. Conventional clubs are designed under the assumtion that you are looking at the ball when you use them to be sure of sweet spot contact. For a confident feel and touch to the ball, a heavy headed putter is a must. this will give you a smooth slow pendulum tempo that will take hitting out of the stroke. But the biggest advantage of a heavy headed putter is in creating more mass. With a larger heavier head, you get a greater MOI[ moment of inertia], Which is what minimizes twisting in the head during the stroke. Without a square head at impact, you will always have directional problems. The other advantage is that a heavier , larger head produces a bigger sweet spot. If you are not looking at the ball during the stroke, you had better be sure you have enough sweet spot to hit. Miss the sweet spot and you will lose direction and lose energy at impact which destroys distance control.
              Thanks John

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by L2 Lateral Line Putt View Post
                Hi Guys,
                The biggest thing that keeps looking at the hole to putt from taking off is in the club designs. Conventional clubs are designed under the assumtion that you are looking at the ball when you use them to be sure of sweet spot contact. For a confident feel and touch to the ball, a heavy headed putter is a must. this will give you a smooth slow pendulum tempo that will take hitting out of the stroke. But the biggest advantage of a heavy headed putter is in creating more mass. With a larger heavier head, you get a greater MOI[ moment of inertia], Which is what minimizes twisting in the head during the stroke. Without a square head at impact, you will always have directional problems. The other advantage is that a heavier , larger head produces a bigger sweet spot. If you are not looking at the ball during the stroke, you had better be sure you have enough sweet spot to hit. Miss the sweet spot and you will lose direction and lose energy at impact which destroys distance control.
                Thanks John
                Hi John
                i agree that conventinal clubs dont always work well. i know my 52" shafted putter has a really thick shaft and a heavy head and also heel-toe ballance.
                cheers
                Bill

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                • #9
                  Re: new to the site

                  Originally posted by L2 Lateral Line Putt View Post
                  Hi Guys,
                  The biggest thing that keeps looking at the hole to putt from taking off is in the club designs. Conventional clubs are designed under the assumtion that you are looking at the ball when you use them to be sure of sweet spot contact. For a confident feel and touch to the ball, a heavy headed putter is a must. this will give you a smooth slow pendulum tempo that will take hitting out of the stroke. But the biggest advantage of a heavy headed putter is in creating more mass. With a larger heavier head, you get a greater MOI[ moment of inertia], Which is what minimizes twisting in the head during the stroke. Without a square head at impact, you will always have directional problems. The other advantage is that a heavier , larger head produces a bigger sweet spot. If you are not looking at the ball during the stroke, you had better be sure you have enough sweet spot to hit. Miss the sweet spot and you will lose direction and lose energy at impact which destroys distance control.
                  Thanks John

                  Would you suggest center shaft or heel shaft?

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                  • #10
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                    I would suggest center shaft because you will want a club that best moves up and down the line with your shoulder swing and a center shafted club does that best.
                    John

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                    • #11
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                      hi Ben
                      the one i use the ping C10 G21 is center shafted and has a heaver head than the normal putter.
                      cheers
                      Bill

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                      • #12
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                        hi Bill,
                        When I say heavy I mean heavy. Our L2 putter head weighs 615 grams. the closest club head weight to that is about 450 grams. you can't believe how stable the extra weight feels.
                        John

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                        • #13
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                          Hi John
                          my Ping C10 G2I putter head is 468 grams and i think at the time was one on the heavest you could get. i have had it over three years now and really love it. the shaft on it is thicker than i have ever seen on a putter and i think that also adds to the weight. i am sure you have a great putter that is made to be used as a sidesaddle putter but back 4 years ago i think this Ping was the best that was on the marker back then.
                          if you have a look at the Ping C21 G2I then i think you will see it is very well suited to be a sidesaddle putter of the top order.
                          also i'm am a realy big Ping fan and have used Ping for over 35 years so am a bit biased.
                          wish you all the best with your putter and hope you had a realy good time when over here deminstrating its advantages earler in the year.
                          cheers
                          Bill

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                            hi Bill,
                            I have always used ping irons. I have an original set of pings I used for 34 years. I got a ping Rapture 6 iron that I tried and it put about 10yards on my shots so I got a set of them. I am still getting used to the weight difference.
                            As for the putters, one of the biggest things about a heavy headed putter is the grip. Our L2 has a custom made grip that weighs 411 grams. together with the head, it balances out the club so it swings smoothly thrue the shot without the weight sensation.
                            If you want to see more about it, go to www.laterallineputter.com.
                            I am truly NOT trying to sell you our club, I'm just excited about it. There are a lot of golfers out there that need to find out what we know already about this great style.
                            thanks John

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                            • #15
                              Re: new to the site

                              Originally posted by L2 Lateral Line Putt View Post
                              hi Bill,
                              I have always used ping irons. I have an original set of pings I used for 34 years. I got a ping Rapture 6 iron that I tried and it put about 10yards on my shots so I got a set of them. I am still getting used to the weight difference.
                              As for the putters, one of the biggest things about a heavy headed putter is the grip. Our L2 has a custom made grip that weighs 411 grams. together with the head, it balances out the club so it swings smoothly thrue the shot without the weight sensation.
                              If you want to see more about it, go to www.laterallineputter.com.
                              I am truly NOT trying to sell you our club, I'm just excited about it. There are a lot of golfers out there that need to find out what we know already about this great style.
                              thanks John
                              Hi John
                              thats for the link to the site had a quick look. i will have a good long look at it later.
                              i also still have my ping K1 from the 70s, and also my ping eyes, i tried the Rapture irons and really liked them and how they have a diffrent insert face and that there a multi part head, using 5 diffrent parts.
                              most advanced iron ever made i think and very hard to make too.
                              i only gained 2 yards with my irons and there was no diffrent in flight or ball control. so i'll stay with my ping zing2 for a while longer, 2 yard more is not worth me paying £400.
                              looking at some of the pictures in your site it looks like they grip the top of putter just to the side of the right elbow. with me it up at the right shoulders so the shaft runs down the middle of my full right arm. i think the putter all the way up the arm is more stable. my putter looked a bit more upright in the shaft to yours so the head is closer to the foot. my right palm looks at the targe all through the swing
                              i'm sure you will do really well with your new putter as it "does just what it says on the tin"
                              anyone who is putting badly and just cant get there putting right than i say try John's putter, i am sure you will see a big diffrence in your putting.
                              i know this system of putting works and have been using it over 3 years and getting funny looks and coments till the see it working and they want to try it too. and now there is a putter made just to suit this systen of putting.
                              you have my suport John
                              all the best
                              Bill
                              Last edited by bill reed; 10-27-2010, 05:45 PM.

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