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Re: Fade & Draw Jack's way
It seems to me like he said exactly what you said, aka he is agreeing with you and possibly elaborting on thost points so that others might understand...
Personally, I like to make it as easy as possible. I swing exactly the same for a draw, fade, slice ect. The only difference is I point the club face left or right depending on what I want to hit and aim left or right.
If your swing is working great, why would you ever try to change it and possibly lose your groove by changing the release, or swing more in to out, the reason you hit so well, is to do practice and finding the optimum swing path and release, why change it?
It all has to do with swingpath relation to the target and the face path relation to the swing path. You could even hit a fade (starts left and curves right) with a 'closed' club face, its all relative ie what is the closed in reference to? It depends on where you are aiming, if your path is out to in relative to the target line, but your face contacts the ball when it is open to the path but closed to the target line. While relative to yourself, all you did is swing a square path with an open club face in relation to your normal adress. If there was no target line, you are basically hitting a slice, a good slice, it starts straight, and curves right, that is why you aim to the left, so when it startes going right it ends up on the target line. If you open up the face too much, then you are still hitting a fade IMO, it is starting left of the target line and curving right, just curving too far right of the target line, but it went straight and then curved right in relation to your stance line, so you could look at it as a bad slice or it could be called a bad fade in relation to the target.
You can really only hit the ball 3 different ways, you can slice, hook, or hit it straight. The other 6 that make up the 9 ball rule has to do with the target line, 3 shots lined up the target line, 3 shots lined up left of the target line, and 3 shots lined up right of the target line. I think it makes golf much more simple if you only have 3 ball rules. When someone is askign for help, they either hit is straight, slice it or hook it, forget about where the target line is, your stance could be messed up, what did the ball do in relation to your stance and then where did it curve if at all. If it starts right or left, that means you have a in to out or and out to in path and it needs to be fixed before they attempt any shot shaping. I can't think of any pro that ever had an intentional in to out or out to in path, it was all coming from in to square and back in. When they say the play a fade or whatever, that just means they aimed differently and hit a slice in the simplest of terms.
It does take some getting used to swing with a closed or open face as the weight and balance is very weird at first, you have to try and not 'listen' to the club head is telling you and just do what you always do. It takes practice to have a trusted habitual swing, but IMO, this is the best way to shape a shot.
Originally posted by keiko
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Personally, I like to make it as easy as possible. I swing exactly the same for a draw, fade, slice ect. The only difference is I point the club face left or right depending on what I want to hit and aim left or right.
If your swing is working great, why would you ever try to change it and possibly lose your groove by changing the release, or swing more in to out, the reason you hit so well, is to do practice and finding the optimum swing path and release, why change it?
It all has to do with swingpath relation to the target and the face path relation to the swing path. You could even hit a fade (starts left and curves right) with a 'closed' club face, its all relative ie what is the closed in reference to? It depends on where you are aiming, if your path is out to in relative to the target line, but your face contacts the ball when it is open to the path but closed to the target line. While relative to yourself, all you did is swing a square path with an open club face in relation to your normal adress. If there was no target line, you are basically hitting a slice, a good slice, it starts straight, and curves right, that is why you aim to the left, so when it startes going right it ends up on the target line. If you open up the face too much, then you are still hitting a fade IMO, it is starting left of the target line and curving right, just curving too far right of the target line, but it went straight and then curved right in relation to your stance line, so you could look at it as a bad slice or it could be called a bad fade in relation to the target.
You can really only hit the ball 3 different ways, you can slice, hook, or hit it straight. The other 6 that make up the 9 ball rule has to do with the target line, 3 shots lined up the target line, 3 shots lined up left of the target line, and 3 shots lined up right of the target line. I think it makes golf much more simple if you only have 3 ball rules. When someone is askign for help, they either hit is straight, slice it or hook it, forget about where the target line is, your stance could be messed up, what did the ball do in relation to your stance and then where did it curve if at all. If it starts right or left, that means you have a in to out or and out to in path and it needs to be fixed before they attempt any shot shaping. I can't think of any pro that ever had an intentional in to out or out to in path, it was all coming from in to square and back in. When they say the play a fade or whatever, that just means they aimed differently and hit a slice in the simplest of terms.
It does take some getting used to swing with a closed or open face as the weight and balance is very weird at first, you have to try and not 'listen' to the club head is telling you and just do what you always do. It takes practice to have a trusted habitual swing, but IMO, this is the best way to shape a shot.
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