AJ Truth about golf-really?

[Matt10]

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here's the link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=32EFNN3H

[ubizmo]

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Thanks. I've looked at the clips--very interesting! I'm not sure what to make of it, but it's certainly something to try out.

[Matt10]

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i know, i'm still watching it over and over-the first time i got so fed up with him talkin so much,that i just skipped-but when i was in the mood to listen to everything it all started making sense and i've managed to apply it to the game-hitting some really good drives;straigh too with a fade at the end.

The thing is that I'm hitting these exactly how he says-at a moderate pace;so who knows how it'll go at a faster pace.

[Matt10]

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great point-and we all have our thoughts and opinions.

all i know is that i've tried it and applied the concept(s) to my game and it has improved and has simplified alltogether and I don't think i'll be without this one for a while. Have any of you guys tried it out on the range/course yet? please try it first then state your opinion, i was skeptical at first-look at me now.

[mr3856a]

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I got it and tried it on the course and range earlier this summer, and it was like magic. I had no swing thoughts at all, shot 90 first time out after one session at the range. It was simply amazing.

Then... I started getting cute, trying to "perfect" my swing (exactly as he tells you NOT to do). Since then I've totally lost it. I chunk it, I've got the shanks, I'm flipping my hands, outside-in-swing path - just GAWD awful.

I need to sit down and watch the tapes again, forget everything I've tried to "learn" and just go back to AJ.

[ubizmo]

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great point-and we all have our thoughts and opinions.

all i know is that i've tried it and applied the concept(s) to my game and it has improved and has simplified alltogether and I don't think i'll be without this one for a while. Have any of you guys tried it out on the range/course yet? please try it first then state your opinion, i was skeptical at first-look at me now.

I tried it, but I think I just don't get what he's saying. I couldn't even hit the ball. Maybe if I watched the entire video I'd get it, but from the clips and pictures I've seen, I don't. If my right hand is supposed to face me in the backswing, as if I were holding a mirror up to myself, then I just can't swing a golf club from that position.

[dannyra]

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The pulling action allowed the right/back wrist to remain hinged, but it took the power away from the right/back forearms. In fact you got swing speed and lost the ability to put mass in the swing.

Distance = 1/2 ( mass x velocity ) squared.

Both are important in the golf swing. Too much is focus on speed and lack of center contact.


G-1.

Your formula should be force=1/2 x mass x velocity^2. I'm assuming your associating force to distance in this application. More force, more distance.
Velocity is squared, not mass x velocity, so velocity in fact has more influence on the force applied to a golf ball than the mass does.

I think AJ has an interesting concept, but I don't think the club rotation has near as much effect on distance as it appears he's claiming. As he keeps saying hitting the home run. I think his points are very good for control though.

[mr3856a]

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Maybe if I watched the entire video I'd get it

I haven't seen the clip that someone posted yet, but I own the videos, and the beginning of the video is incredibly interesting at the very least - if only for the information about how the clubface sits in your hand and which part of the ball to attack.

And while I maybe agree that he overstates the relationship of distance and the "little home run," I think the idea of hitting the little home run is a lot easier to understand than telling someone "close the clubface." What do you after you close it? The idea of hitting the little home run makes it easy to understand that you are actually rotating the clubface through the hitting area, not just closing it and leaving it square to the target after you hit the ball.

Anyway, in the end, I think he boils the whole concept of golf and hitting the ball with the club to a much easier-to-understand set of basics for we hackers who inherited the earth.

Maybe I should only speak for myself, but I don't think any of us are going to be hitting 220-yard 7 irons or 400+ yard drives a la Stuart Appleby at Firestone, and I think AJ simplifies the game.

[ubizmo]

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I haven't seen the clip that someone posted yet, but I own the videos, and the beginning of the video is incredibly interesting at the very least - if only for the information about how the clubface sits in your hand and which part of the ball to attack.

And while I maybe agree that he overstates the relationship of distance and the "little home run," I think the idea of hitting the little home run is a lot easier to understand than telling someone "close the clubface." What do you after you close it? The idea of hitting the little home run makes it easy to understand that you are actually rotating the clubface through the hitting area, not just closing it and leaving it square to the target after you hit the ball.

Maybe it's because I never hit a home run!

I understand about hammering the nail. That's a good mental image to have of the impact. As for swinging a baseball bat--something I could never do very well--if I were to paint a dot on the bat for the spot that's supposed to hit the ball, then I think that spot would point right along the swing path, wouldn't it? I don't think I'd be rotating the "bat face" to hit a ball, so I don't see the relevance of the baseball analogy. But the thing that baffles me completely is the idea that my right palm should be facing me in the backswing. Can anybody actually do that and still hit a ball?

[dannyra]

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I think I said, I would make physis people come after me. I was keeping it simple and like you said, help me out here because it has been so long 40 years, your equation would look like: ( now correct me if I am wrong, please, enjoy the education), you may want to work out a simple problem showing the difference in the two if we gave mass a numerical value of 2 and the same for velocity/speed.

Distance = 1/2 (force= mass x velocity) squared

Distance = 1/2 ( mass x velocity ) squared

In all truth are we not dealing with the collision of two objects?

mv = (mass) x (velocity)

mv/momentum

You could go into force, applied force, momentum and all the others which would be great for a physic class in golf, but not for a 2 hour lesson.

I actually have a physics degree, but my physics knowledge has been rapidly disappearing since the day I graduated college.

Really we are only talking about momentum. I believe my formula above was for kinetic energy not force anyway. Funny how fast you forget stuff when you don't use it.

Which as you stated the first time, mass has just as much importence as velocity.

I still not completely satisfied with that though, but I'll have to leave this debate for another time and probably something a little more on topic with the thread.

[chessbum]

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Okay,

So bottom line: Are the AJ Truth about Golf Tapes worth $100 or not???

What does everyone thinK??

Chessbum...

[whippet]

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not worth the money a load of rubbish, hes saying yea hit the ball this simple way but you dont learn nothing, you learn your swing through hard work, and when thats done you go on the course and just forget the processes and trust your swing, his way is for high handy cappers who want to knock a few shots of quicky but in the end you wont reach the real potential you might have.

[mr3856a]

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Absolutely, 100% disagree. He simplifies the game; beats the hell out of 10 or 12 range buckets that will cost you $100 and not teach you a thing.

[chessbum]

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Thanks for the info, Mr3856a,

Actually, I was all ready to buy it until I saw Whippets reply. Now I am thinking of buying it again.

One more question, did you meet the promised results:

• Drives of 30 yards longer
• Lower your handicap by 30%

Any other useful info you can give me? How helpful was it to you?

Thanks,

Chessbum.....

[mindfulking]

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In all honesty, part of what whippet said is true.

95% of all golfers cant shoot under 100, so yes, the videos are aimed at high handicap people.

Beyond that I think the post is a bit jaded. All videos have the opportunity to teach you something, and if you can walk away with one game changing idea, then it is better than endless range balls ingraining things that don't work.

What AJ focuses on is the release of the club in the idea of closing the clubface through impact, and showing that you "can" still hit a DECENT golf shot even if some of your mechanics may be off (specifically weight transfer)... he also points out many times that he is not talking about elite golfers who shoot scratch, but the average golfer. If you want to be a pro, then no, it is not a video for you, but for the average golfer who has a lot of improvement potential these videos may be the best idea for them.

The 30% handicap 30 yard statement I would guess is aimed at 100+ golfers who hit thier drivers 200....

The one thing I took out of it was the idea that you dont swing a golf club from the handle, it gave me more 'head' awareness, and the idea of keeping my right palm facing my body gave me a single thought that allowed me to go from hitting a flare slice to a slight draw. Was that worth it too me? I hit every fairway on my last round, something I never did before the video, so yes, for me, very worth it.

For you, maybe not.