anyone up for a discussion?

[bill reed]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

hi neil
try and get a clip of sam torance, i think he is only one i know of that dont do what you say, i know i move my head back as my hips and shoulder turn, its about 2/3 inch and i feel my shoulder against my chin too its like a check-point for me, i agree with what you say about the head but i think it works with the hips as the weight moved to the left foot and not start it.
bill

[golfonenemesis]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

You are peeing into the wind. you need to go to greatgolfdomain.com and ask Golfone what the hell he is saying.
This is rad, man, totally goof.

[shootin4par]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

hey bill try this, stand up and have your weight ALL on your right foot and keep your head as still as possible while moving your hips left, while doing this dont let you head go left at ALL. did you shift a lot of weight onto your left? chances are you shifted very little weight on your left if you held your head still. try that and let me kow what you find. Now what I will say is that if we shifted JUST the head, and hot the hips, then there would be very little weight shift as well
neil

[golfonenemesis]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

I am not using this site anymore, due to dufus's and ingratiated posters, you can all go to h..l.

[aftford]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

Hi Folks....
seems i chose a great time to check in on you all , just as SHOOTIN was making yet another irrellivant comment...
the downswing begins with a slight movement left of the left knee towards the target, followed by the left hip and then the uncoiling of the upper body.
there is nothing mystical or complex about the golf swing..some people just love the sound of their own voice...

good to be back.....watch out shootin, i got you sussed.

aft.

[rharris06]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

And when you move the left knee towards the target it THEN makes the head move slightly down and back to the left.

[aftford]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

And when you move the left knee towards the target it THEN makes the head move slightly down and back to the left.

very well put , young ricky...

[golfonenemesis]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

What a Crock! Go blow it out your a.s with what any of you know about golf.
I could do better with one arm and standing on one leg than any of you losers.

[shootin4par]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

Hi Folks....
seems i chose a great time to check in on you all , just as SHOOTIN was making yet another irrellivant comment...
the downswing begins with a slight movement left of the left knee towards the target, followed by the left hip and then the uncoiling of the upper body.
there is nothing mystical or complex about the golf swing..some people just love the sound of their own voice...

good to be back.....watch out shootin, i got you sussed.

aft.

I asked for a discussion, not to be ridiculled. WHY must you attack me? I put PROOF out there and all you have to do is go to the website, put up the lines, keep an open mind and you will see what I am talking about. I did not say you want to TRY and start the downswing with the head, my MAIN point was it should move off the ball in the backswing to allow the natural head movement in the downswing to occur.

and ricky, look at bmans site and see what his response was to my thread

[BrianW]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

"if you started your downswing WITH YOUR HEAD you would have to time it to perfection" I didnt type it correctly in the first place.

Ive given my opinion, no more posts from me on this thread.

Thank goodness for that

[BrianW]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

Hey Guys! keep it friendly. We are all entitled to our opinions and should not rubbish others.

Anyway, here's my pennyworth:

"The headbone is connected to the neckbone the neckbone is connected to the shoulderbone the shoulderbone is connected to the back bone and that's the word of the lord" well that what the old song tells us and I guess it's true, if the shoulders and neck move in the golf swing then the head has to follow.

Regarding what starts the downswing: I start it during the later part of the backswing when my left knee starts to turn left and start moving my weight back to my left side creating the initial seperation from the hips and shoulders.

[shootin4par]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

My biggest issue with this discussion is this, Has anyone done the things that I suggested to see what I was talking about or have they just read and responded with their preconcieved notion? I put myself on the line by using Tiger as my example and told you he is a piece of evidence. All you have to do is put lines up on his head and realize that it moves right about 3 inches or half a head, then moves down and left at the startdown, then tilts back to the right coming into impact, from there it is irrelevent. I also gave drills you can do in the mirror. If I give you all this info or "proof" as I call it and YOU TRY IT and I am wrong then I look like a moron. more of what I call proof of the head coming off the ball in the backswing check out bubbas 4th pic and see how much his head is over top of his rear foot. http://golfdigest.com/instruction/in...berwatson.html
come on guys, just keep an open mind and try it out.

ALL I am trying to do is BE HELPFULL and share something that I have learned, if my "proof" is incorrect then you will see for yourself. Spend the ten minutes to try it out, someone be bold and be the first one. I have searched this swing for 7 years, many have searched longer, but I would not have learned this with much help from BMANs site had I not had an open mind.. and understand, I dont want you thinking about the downswing, I just want you thinking about the back swing and learning how to move your head off the ball so when your NATURAL movement of the head forward occurs you are in a good position with your head and not over top or past the ball at impact.

[bill reed]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

hi shootin
i think thats why you tilt a bit back on your drives to set the head and spine angle and yes almost all pros do have some head movment at start of back swing and again move back at start of downswing with the weight shift and yes i tried it and i do it too.
bill

[rharris06]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

Shootin, there is many OTHER WAYS to start the downswing. And that is what i think is the best way to start it although I dont think about anything in the downswing, I believe a good backswing should make a good downswing automatic.

Brianw, I wont waste my time starting an arguement, you say everyone is entitled to there own opinion, well so am i, your opinion is no more important than what mine is.

Ricky

[shootin4par]

Re: anyone up for a discussion?

Shootin, there is many OTHER WAYS to start the downswing. And that is what i think is the best way to start it although I dont think about anything in the downswing, I believe a good backswing should make a good downswing automatic.

yes there are many ways to initiate the downswing, out of curiosity which way is it that you think I advocate in this thread?