another crack at getting my swing looked at

[wildwilly911]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

one of the biggest problems i see with your swing is your knee coming together your knees are almost 90 degrees from target line at top of swing, hips are at almost 90 and shoulders are way past 90 none of thats any good for a golf swing,you have no tension built up in your waist, chest or upper legs, try swinging as if your feet are nailed to the floor, also place a ball between your knees and not let it fall out, you need to use the muscles of the upper legs and the waist, your just letting knee colapse and turning on your ankle and lower leg, theres no power to be made there. that should help with your hip slide also. hope it helps

[wildwilly911]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

just another thing it would be nice to see a swing out side at normal speed and hitting a golf ball, youll be suprised how much different your swing will be when you place a ball in front of you, then we can give you some real feedback.

[lgskywalker37]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

my knees have always been a problem (not in that they affect my trajectory or contact..... but i do think they are a power leak) i will try that.

and i want to get some video outside, i will see what i can do.

[lgskywalker37]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

For the Driver it was to place 30% of the weight on the left leg and 70% on the right leg and you turn around the right leg.

The rest of the clubs about 40% on left leg and 60% on right leg.

This will vary by player in the larger perosn like myself the above, smaller below and remember this is only a guide and can be adjusted to fit ones needs:

1. http://www.golfonline.com/golfonline...,,00_4_sp.html

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thanks for that advice cmays. my irons went from 8i barley going 150 sometimes to my 9i goig 155 avg sometimes 160! and my 5i from 165 avg to 200 avg and that is on range balls. seems i had way too much weight on my back foot, as soon as i switched some weight over to my front foot, i as hitting outstanding with good compression and distance (i am compressing so goodi have to keep cleaning all the white stuff (ball conver) from my club face. my driving is now up to carring about 270 and rolling to 290ish.

another thing that helped http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy9GTAENiJA

seeing how tiger keeps his waist line back and rotate around it instead of where i was keeping my waist in and sliding (not to mention, a lot less back pain) and i can get a much larger x factor (hips to shoulder seperation) my swing just looks ans feels 1000% better. i will try to get a swing video up later so you can see my progress, thanks agian for all your help.

all that helps give me a bit more distance but i think the biggest factor was keeping my right side quiet in the back swing. (that helps keep my spine angle and give me good contact and conection) i feel on my backswing as though my right side is loose but i don't move it at all and rotate around it. then i just push my left hip back and the downswing just happens. i can even stand on the front foot and hit my 9i 130 (which was further than i was hitting my 9i before on 2 feet) i just twist my ancle to get my left hip moving back....... i tried standing on the back foot but you need to wiehgt on your front foot to go back so that you can downsing. keeping your left hip back and rotating around it is a must. when the weight is on you left side your left arm is stronger and eisier to keep right side quiet...... so i ran into troulbe when i tried to get a more sweeping hit with my driver by putting 70% on back and 30 on front, it made my left arm weak and my right arm took over on the BS and i was skying them, so when i put my weight on my back foot i have to remember to really quiet my right arm (though it is harder when my weight is on my right leg because that makes my right arm stronger and left arm weaker). so to sumarize main things that helped my swing, 1 keeping right side quiet on BS and 2 keep left hip out so that it can go back in the DS. well thanks again and i will try to get some videos up so you can see my improvment.

[rharris06]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

How do you hit your 9 iron the same distance as a tour pro with that swing?? Sorry, just asking.

[ogallalabob]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

How do you hit your 9 iron the same distance as a tour pro with that swing?? Sorry, just asking.

I bet Furyk is asked that same question a lot

[rharris06]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

Furyk would hit his 9 iron about 145 and his downswing and impact is perfectly on plane! lgskywalkers isnt, otherwise he would be able to hit every fairway and every green!

[lgskywalker37]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

How do you hit your 9 iron the same distance as a tour pro with that swing?? Sorry, just asking.

ricky, i thought tour pros hit their 9i about 150 and that is usually at 75%, i think they can hit 165 if they had to. but the swing you were looking at was old, i was hitting my 9i about 120 with that swing (and it is true as wildwilly said it is a practice swing and there is no ball and i could do somthing differnet when i ball is there). if you read my newest post i said i would try to get some new videos of my new and improved swing (though it still needs work)...... and i am working on my swing, i know it isn't the greatest, i am just happy becaue i never hit this good before and it was so nice sounding and looking (the ball flight not the swing), i can't believe i went from my old swing on the 21st that was referred to as a falling with some twisting instead of a golf swing (i will post a video of my old swing to so you can compare) , to what it is now. but you don't have to believe me, the driving range distances could be wrong, all i am saying that i see my 9i go past the 150 yard marker (and i am hitting out of the grass too and not off a mat) but sometime this month i will try to get some outside video so you can see my actaull swing.

here is my old swing (of fallling lol cmays)
slow mo face on 7i http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv5IZarwL3A

and my newest swing
slow mo face on 7i http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RReP_i26mEU
slow mo down line 7i http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOAYPM3X-gk

and my one footed swing
face on 7i http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2P6_8giYHk

[wildwilly911]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

your standing to upright try bending over more, swing with your shoulder not your arms, thats causing the big slide and the casting.

[lgskywalker37]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

i agree somewhat after i saw my swing on video..... but i don;t think i am casting, it is more of a early relase, casting is usually uncockin near the top before you hit shouler plane, i am more uncockin near the upper waist. but i think i am differentiating my swing when there is no ball present because i am hitting it sooo good and far now, my swing can't be that bad. but if i am hitting it that far/ accurate with that bad of a swing and late release, i can only think of how good my swing can get. i have only been playing for about a year too.

[rharris06]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

This is what I see wrong with your new swing.

1/ You take the club back to much with the left hand fanning it open slightly.
2/ You dont keep your spine angle and you raise slightly in the backswing.
3/ Everything turns to much, your hips turn way to much and I think this is because you are raising up in the backswing by straightening your right knee, I also think your shoulders OVER TURN!!
4/ In your downswing your hands and club are stuck WAY behind you because you slide your hips ALOT on the downswing, imn guessing you either hit alot of blocks and hooks and duck hooks.

To be hitting it good with that downswing you must have good talent and skill to be able to Time your hit correctly it helps that your quite athletic and young ( you look quite athletic anyway lol), soon enough you will get serious problems because at the moment I bet you are getting away with it and timing everything well, one day that timing will be off and hooks and blocks will be on there way!

This is my advice, keep your right knee nice and flexed all the way in the backswing making sure you coil up well!! From there feel like your turning inside a dust bin so you cant slide your hips.

[lgskywalker37]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

thanks for the tips rharris, (my swing must be much differt on tape then when i am in fron tof ball) becaue in real life, i never block if anything, my "accidental shot" is a pull fade and it goes back to where i was pointing, so it is not that bad, but my diffiniate worst shot is a pull about 10-20 yds left. other than that i hit it quite strait. at the range i hit diver long iron short iron, i don't just hit driver after driver etc. i know i don't fan in front of the ball, as i am still learning the swing, i now know what i need to to (though i don't alwasy do it) and i just sometimes forget (that is why i need to practice to get my correct swing ingrained so that i don't need to think as much) but after my first few hits at the range i will be good for a few hours with my swing. then if i leave an go somewhere else, i might loose it for a few swing but i get it right back. so on the course i miht havea a bad first hole, but after that it is all good. but my swings on tape there is no ball fo me to see what i am doing wrong and it is usually a few hours after i have gotten back from the range and that may be why it looks so bad.

[rharris06]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

A swing with a ball and a swing with out ball are usually 2 completely different swings.

[shootin4par]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

[quote=rharris06]This is what I see wrong with your new swing.

1/ You take the club back to much with the left hand fanning it open slightly.
2/ You dont keep your spine angle and you raise slightly in the backswing.
3/ Everything turns to much, your hips turn way to much and I think this is because you are raising up in the backswing by straightening your right knee, I also think your shoulders OVER TURN!!
4/ In your downswing your hands and club are stuck WAY behind you because you slide your hips ALOT on the downswing, imn guessing you either hit alot of blocks and hooks and duck hooks.

[quote]
good observations and items 1-4 could ALL possibly be taken care of with a good backswing pivot if he where to get more behind the ball.

and skywalker, the reason your swing will not be the same in practice and real is because in practice you have no aiming point of where the club HAS to be. put a ball down and now the club HAS to be in a certain position in relation to the practice swing and if the ball is not put where taht position should be then you will have to alter the swing to the other position that the ball is in. This will change path, angle of ottack club face at impact

[rharris06]

Re: another crack at getting my swing looked at

When you swing in your living room putting a big bit of wool or something on the floor and pretending that was the ball and hit that, that would be abit better for filming your swing.