applying sk1

[bruin]

hitting down and taking a divot is inconsistent.
without diluting the 3sk's , is there anything in the set up that would help to hit down ?
cmays talks of right foot then left foot.also if you want to hit down at 20degs then swing up at 20degs.
also seen a video which shows how the swing bottoms out in front of the sternum, so if you move the sturnum forward in the downswing would this not make for taking a divot easier.
only been practicing the 3sk's for 5 weeks , seen a great improvement, but still dont get that sweet spot every time.
any help appreciated.

[oldwease]

Re: applying sk1

To me, the weight distribution at impact is vital. At this point, most of your weight should be on the left side. If you tend to hang back on your right side, you're going to find this a lot harder.

In terms of set up, try taking an initially narrow stance. Then slide the right foot to the rigth to get your normal stance. In the downswing, don't let the clubhead get ahead of the hands going into impact.

Put all of this together and you will have a descending path into the ball. Your hands will be ahead of the ball at impact, so the club will be delofted. This is what you want to achieve.

[bruin]

Re: applying sk1

To me, the weight distribution at impact is vital. At this point, most of your weight should be on the left side. If you tend to hang back on your right side, you're going to find this a lot harder.

In terms of set up, try taking an initially narrow stance. Then slide the right foot to the rigth to get your normal stance. In the downswing, don't let the clubhead get ahead of the hands going into impact.

Put all of this together and you will have a descending path into the ball. Your hands will be ahead of the ball at impact, so the club will be delofted. This is what you want to achieve.

thanks for your reply on this,will try to keep a little more wieght on the left side when i next go to the range.

[bruin]

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I will give you an example of what I work on with people I teach. I will vary this on several body factors to zero in.

Sticking with 3Skills if they are saying 6 iron through the wedges at a 20 degree angle:

We could have you to keep the club head on the ground until the hands reach the inside of the right leg for the right hander and at that point you start to lift up with the hands or if we placed a head cover about a foot behind the ball.

Sticking with 3Skills and the 10 degree angle, 5 iron to the driver.

We would have you bring the club head and hands back until the hands where outside the right leg then you could start lifting the hands to go into the back swing or the head cover about 2 feet behind the ball.

The forearms give you the angle of attack on the ball from the actions of the hands in the back swing and what we do with our stance to address the ball.

Lift the hands at the head cover, drop the club head back down inside the head cover.

General Golf Discussion/Right Foot-Left Foot.

The best I can do on the forum, I never had 1 suit fits all.

thanks for the info, will also check out your rightfoot-left foot in gen discussion, and take this to the range.
feels good when you get the sweet spot ,gotta get this 100%

[bruin]

Re: applying sk1

thanks for the info, will also check out your rightfoot-left foot in gen discussion, and take this to the range.
feels good when you get the sweet spot ,gotta get this 100%

just read your article on right foot- left foot.i always start with my feet together with the ball in the center.
question then? which foot do i move first , want to try this but want to get it right first time.

[slater170]

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just read your article on right foot- left foot.i always start with my feet together with the ball in the center.
question then? which foot do i move first , want to try this but want to get it right first time.

i always move the left foot first, works for me

[wade]

Re: applying sk1

"allowing the hands to come up inside the left leg"...Can you explain this please?

[bdbl]

Re: applying sk1

Guys, Guys!:

You can have 1 skill, 3 Skills are the 54 plus like some of us know

Pardon me?

Putting that to one side, is it just me [I'm sure one of the successful 3 Skillers will have an opinion] but surely once you've start getting this hung up on the how then you've missed the point of 3 Skills.

[bruin]

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If you do not want to Stack and Tilt for the right hander then move the left foot out 1st which gives then the ball position in the stance, follow up by moving the right foot out.

Working with the angles it is not bad to use the 50-50 stance either. You can walk up to the ball and do a little slide to the left with the left hip, a little slide to the right with the right hip, follow up by moving back to the center. This is what the Old Timers referred to as staying active in the address position until they where ready to swing back.

When you can learn the angles, when and how to use the hands in the back swing, this becomes a non-thinking game and Takinitdeep knows what I am speaking of. It then becomes setting up the feel.

cmays,thanks for the help, i will work with left foot 1stand pick up when hands get to inside right thigh.let you know how i get on.
still not going to have any 'swing thoughts' as per 3sk's, but if the set up is right, i should have a better chance of hitting down, at present when i do take a divot its no more than grass and sometimes a little earth

[slater170]

Re: applying sk1

Pardon me?

Putting that to one side, is it just me [I'm sure one of the successful 3 Skillers will have an opinion] but surely once you've start getting this hung up on the how then you've missed the point of 3 Skills.

i didnt like to say
i have just one thought and that is "this is going to go where it should"

[bdbl]

Re: applying sk1

i didnt like to say
i have just one thought and that is "this is going to go where it should"

I'm reading an amazing book called Mind Swings which talks about "The Thought for the Day" and the "Empty Mind" (which Ian H often refers to); it debunks a reliance on mechanics and disses the concept of aiming or "having a target for every shot" - especially in the pre-round warm up.

When I say I'm reading it I mean I got it this morning and have about 20 pages to go, tomorrow I'll read it again and then try and put some of the ideas into practice. I'll then go back to the 3Skills and try again

[slater170]

Re: applying sk1

I'm reading an amazing book called Mind Swings which talks about "The Thought for the Day" and the "Empty Mind" (which Ian H often refers to); it debunks a reliance on mechanics and disses the concept of aiming or "having a target for every shot" - especially in the pre-round warm up.

When I say I'm reading it I mean I got it this morning and have about 20 pages to go, tomorrow I'll read it again and then try and put some of the ideas into practice. I'll then go back to the 3Skills and try again

sounds good to me robin

[BrianW]

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Robin is correct here, 3 Skills explains everything you need to know or do for it to work. I suggest the OP reads the book through a few more times.

The book explains what you need to do to get the correct downwards strike, delofting the club, hands ahead of clubhead at impact, the imagery of the nail, the imagery of the hand clap, hitting the object ahead of the tee and ball. I strongly suggest you keep to the simplicity of the system and away from these other swing thoughts.

[takinitdeep]

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"old fart", I resemble that remark, LOL.
Most don't turn because their chin is in the way of their left shoulder.
"Dolly Parton is alive and well, even in sunny fla" says fla man.
I once used her bra as a sling shot and nearly killed myself letting go with the wrong hand. Like some golf swings, they are bass ackwards; folding the left arm on downswing when they should straighten it; straightening the right arm on backswing when they should let it fold.
Back to my pizza, see ya all.

Let me paint a picture in your minds if I may:

Right hander/left reverse:

We have 2 head covers, 1 being inside the right leg for our short irons, 6 and up and we have the second head cover that we place on the outside of the right leg for the 5 iron and longer.

We have you to take your address position with the 2 head covers on the ground.

If I handed you a wedge and told you to turn the shoulders back the hands would be at our second head cover for the longer stuff. That is not right.

When working with the 20 degree angle or with our wedge you want to think hinge and turn as The Old Fart Takinitdeep Stated; " We need to get the water to pour out of the butt end of the club at the top of the back swing and back down." I had to help by adding a few words. Shhhhh, he is a better writer then me. See his post, this section, Stack and Pour.

You take the wedge that we are working with, turn the shoulders around, the hands are over the 2nd head cover and add the wrist hinge all you are going to get is a dribble of water coming out of the butt end of the club.

With the longer clubs, how do you get the hands over to the 2nd head cover?

For you smart folks holding a club in your hand and your brain goes to mush, You turn and Hinge to allow the hands to go back to the second head cover.



Hey Fla. Man, did I ever tell you about the women that was so Stack that her bra strap broke and gave me a concussion when I was giving her a lesson? Its true, in Texas, they grow them bigger.

[bruin]

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Robin is correct here, 3 Skills explains everything you need to know or do for it to work. I suggest the OP reads the book through a few more times.

The book explains what you need to do to get the correct downwards strike, delofting the club, hands ahead of clubhead at impact, the imagery of the nail, the imagery of the hand clap, hitting the object ahead of the tee and ball. I strongly suggest you keep to the simplicity of the system and away from these other swing thoughts.

brian,i did say in my original post that i was not going to dilute the 3sk's, but was looking for a few pointers to get that downward strike. got a few tips on set up , which i will try next week.also will add, i am going to a range that uses grass not mats , so i can really try and get these divots going without fear of any wrist injury.
thanks again for the inputs