Grip and position at top....

[BrianW]

Re: Grip and position at top....

I don't believe I have ever seen a professional golfer jut his/her elbow out in the early part of the backswing like the instructor, Jeff Riters, in that video is recommending people do. I've seen another instructor,Robert Baker, use a hula-hoop to demonstrate swing plane, arm motion, and wrist action in a DVD called Logical Golf. I find Baker's explanation and example more logical than Riters.

You can find some of Baker's explanations and hula-hoop examples at the link below:
http://www.logicalgolf.com/tips.php?act=tip&id=48
(Baker worked briefly with Els, Ballesteros, Faldo, Price, and Greg Norman for whatever that's worth.)

He was trying to show the way to relate the hands to the clubface as they move around the swingplane and need to rotate as they get to the top, not just the way the right arm and elbow are moved. Baker is not doing this, his hands are static gripping the hoop.

Yes, I know Robert Baker he made something of his "O" factor recently. I like his methods.

[jambalaya]

Re: Grip and position at top....

I don't believe I have ever seen a professional golfer jut his/her elbow out in the early part of the backswing like the instructor, Jeff Riters, in that video is recommending people do. I've seen another instructor,Robert Baker, use a hula-hoop to demonstrate swing plane, arm motion, and wrist action in a DVD called Logical Golf. I find Baker's explanation and example more logical than Riters.

You can find some of Baker's explanations and hula-hoop examples at the link below:
http://www.logicalgolf.com/tips.php?act=tip&id=48
(Baker worked briefly with Els, Ballesteros, Faldo, Price, and Greg Norman for whatever that's worth.)

I think maybe he just wants to show what the right hand is doing. In a real swing he is going to be turning his shoulders which he doesn't really do in that video. In your video the instructor is holding on to the hula hoop with both hands and turning the hoop.

[hjack]

Re: Grip and position at top....

You have it right, a stronger left grip creates a cup in the left (leading) wrist. When you set your wrists, the left has to flex up now, and not so much on it's side, the cupping is a result of the up motion. This is not a bad thing to show a little cup there. You defiantly do not want convex bowing of the wrist.

Being shut at the top has more to do with how you allow your arms to stay connected to your rotation and having the arms simply roll open at you take the club back with that takeaway flowing motion. If you hinder the natural roll in any way by trying to keep the arms still, or fight it into positions you can easily become shut at the top. Don't force the arms to roll either. Just let them naturally allow the leading arm to fold over the trailing arm going back, and then they will be in the proper alignments.

greg

what would be the easiest way to let the leading arm "rollover" trailing

thankyou

[GregJWillis]

Re: Grip and position at top....

Just rotating the shoulders and keeping the arms connected to the width of the chest.