Re: Tiger Woods

Professional sports with their product endorsements has a built in hypocrisy factor. I like to think we can appreciate their world class performances on the course, field and courts with out regard to their less than class performances off. John Daley would be as popular as Tiger if he won as many tournaments, and with much more baggage to spare.

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Tiger press release:

http://www.golf-tuition-online.com/a...1&d=1262123380

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Put your cynical glasses down before reading on.

There is not one person on this board that should feel that they would be able to comment, should they have one of the more questionable things they've done in their life broadcasted to the world.

Nobody (not even the golfers from number two in the world downwards) is in any position to pass their comment. Nobody knows the pressures Tiger has been under since childhood. Nobody knows what has gone on behind closed doors. Nobody knows how Tiger has reacted personally to losing his best friend and mentor (his Dad). Nobody has lived Tiger's life.

Yes, we all go through trialling times. They define us. Up to now, Tiger seems to have had a privileged life. So privileged that he is THE most recognisable household name on the planet. Then, he made a very big mistake for reasons only known to him. Sometime we just do things without knowing why. He's trying to figure that out now and repair it, if he can.

Whilst a lot of the comments on this board regarding Tiger's situation have been amusing when taken in the jovial context (which I am happy to do) there is an undertone.

The problem with individuals is that (generally) we are intelligent folk and at the drop of a hat feel the urge to prove it infront of others when our own moralities and actions are not under scrutiny.

All judgement passed upon others in any circumstance is the true meaning of attempting to fill the void. The very few human figures that attain complete self love and acceptance of themselves and others don't need religion/God, alcohol, spliffs or other such "help". All they need are themselves. I'm not in that higher echelon of existance. For the most part, we can only strive to be. It seems that being human is naturally flawed, and we find those flaws out during the course of time. Like the golfer trying to get better.

The entire human race suffers a similar set of ills to each other, and the rest of the world doesn't see it. In Tiger's situation, I would be glad to be in a position to be judged by 6 billion people. But to him, the judgement from so many is totally seperate to him sorting himself out. I hope he comes back strong and sets the records he was so obviously born to set.

He's not playing great golf for everyone else. He doesn't do magazines/photo shoots/product endorsements/TV shows for everyone else. He does them for him, and him alone. Anybody else with the same set of skills would do exactly that. Imagine having a job that enabled you to do almost everything that most others can only dream of and wish for, then see the planet bring scorn upon you when you trip and fall. Talk about the definition of jealousy.

I've recently been in a position where a lot of hard work, sacrifice, sweat and tears have been judged by someone. That someone thought they knew enough to pass comment. It hurt for a while, until I realised that I shouldn't take it personally. The truth is, the person in question knew diddly squat (even though he obviously was convinced that he should offer his scorning opinion) and I realised that I shouldn't take it personally. It wasn't directed at me. It was a selfish act of his in an attempt to make himself feel better. "I'm not the only person doing something wrong. I'm gonna show someone else up because I think I can, and it takes the heat off myself". This person has learned very little of his own existence, and hence knows nothing of others.

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Hi Neil,

Wise words indeed.

One of the fundamental laws of humanity is that 'They builds you up and then they knocks you down' another that comes to mind is 'The higher they stand the further they fall'

People in general are not taking anything away from Tigers great golfing talent or his abilities to perform on the links against all comers, they are not even saying that much about his family life. I think the issue that rubs most people up the wrong way is that he has been content taking the big bucks from promoting himself as the 'All American Boy' the squeaky clean family man and role model to all those young people striving to imitate his abilities, lifestyle and successes. Take John Daley as a comparison, OK he has lived off the wall but what you see is what you get. Honesty is the word that comes to mind.

'Let he that is without sin cast the first stone' is a most prophetic standard for us to live by but alas does not account for a sense of humour, thank goodness we can laugh at ourselves and each other.

I look forward to Tigers return to golf, the game would not be the same without him. It will be very hard for him to hold his head high in public now and the metal of his spirit will be tested to the utmost. IMO true humility is the only way forward in such circumstances.

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The only man who never makes a mistake is the man who never does anything.

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Maybe it would be better if Tiger didn't do anything then . Well! not in the trouser department anyway.

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Are you suggesting he'd be OK conducting extra-marital affairs in the ladies-wear department? Or home furnishings?

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Oh! Suit you Sir!!

It's really getting beyond a joke now Neil. I am getting tired of us sitting in on an evening watching the TV and Tiger coming round and asking if anyone wants casual sex, it's been going on ever since he got that job working for Elvis in the local Chip Shop

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If that was funny, I might laugh.......................

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Hey! Lighten up. Anyhow, the message was for Neil, he has a SOH.............

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I think Neil 18 is right. Tiger should not take any of this "anti" Tiger stuff personal. He should just show up at a tournament, do a "no comment", and start golfing. He screwed around on his wife, got caught, and it's probably going to wreck his family life.

Myself, I am not perfect, although I have enjoyed a nice life of integrity, especially where all my family members are concerned. I can watch 4 generations of my family, and be proud none have been in jail, kicked out of school, or divorced. That's not to say some did not need their butts kicked a few times to get back on the good road. Most of my imperfections happened in my working life, where the term "dog eats dog" still rings true.

To me nothing much else matters but one's family. You love them, protect them, and most of all you respect them. If you mess up your family life, while hurting other members of your family in the process, to me that is very much lacking, in personal honesty, and integrity. Bottom line is he treated his golf game with more respect than he did his family. The perception that Tiger was at the top of the pile with regards to being almost perfect at work, and in his family life has been shattered. Does he have a legitimate reason for letting this happen? I don't know, but I would be willing to bet, that one of the reasons was that he figured he was so untouchable (extreme arrogance) in his personal, private world, that he figured he would never get caught. Arrogance in itself has been the down fall of a great many decent people. He is what he is, and he will have to live with it, and accept it. GJS

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That's probably it alright; and while we often saw the sulking and smacking his club to the ground then, after the 9-iron incident (good club choice), out of the blue comes more information concerning Tiger actually throwing golf clubs and shouting loud obcenities in public at less-than-perfect shots. Now watch his Public Relations firm's "spin doctors" go to work on this.
Poor Tiger-I wonder if anyone considers the hurt and embarassment he's caused his wife and family.

Two words for Tiger, "GROW UP" !

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It was probably a 'Lob Wedge', or maybe a 'Lazy Lob' Wedge

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Absolutely Brian and, when you think about it, had Tiger been a baseball player instead of a golfer her choice would have been both simpler and more appropriate

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I really hope that he decides to go to the masters this year. I have already started to look at hotels just in case he decides to surprise everyone and show up. It is time to see him begin a new chapter and get his life and career back on track. I have really missed seeing tiger play.