Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s

not sure i get the point you are trying make dave
this main point of this forum is to share advice tips etc
i should think most of us are playing this game for fun but we do want to improve our games. aftfords post is really helpful in enlightening people that you dont need 14 clubs or big headed drivers to post your best score.
so if your lucky enough to bomb your drives everytime you hit them or you are not score orientated then this thread is obviously not for you.
its like the telly if you dont like whats on you can always switch channels!

Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s

Dave.

I don,t think you really understand the point of this thread.

1) By shotting lower scores, making more pars and making fewer 3 putts,
your confidence grows , thus increasing your ENJOMENT of the game.
2) i don't know what part of the game of golf YOU feel are most important, this system gets you to hit more fairways, understand the need to learn your yardages for the clubs you are using, cousre management, short game and if you can tell me what part of the game is MORE important than the above, i suggest you go and write a book about it and let all the teachers of this fine game know where they have been going wrong all these years.

Surveys have repeateadly shown that AVERAGE uk , adult male h/cap is 21 and 23 for the U.S.
now why do you suppose that is???????????

Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s

Told u I'd be back,

Well i just played hinkley golf course, and i did not stick 2 the rules of this thread, manly becuse 2 of the lads are big drivers, so i did what every sucker does and tryed to match them. now that in mind i did take a 3i on the first par 4 and made par, same on the next after 5 holes i was 1+ not bad then a par 5 along one, so i got the driver out Bingo a good drive down the middle came off with a 6 couldn't of done any better with an iron of the tee, then a par 4, driver out (no need), ball lost in trees all was needed was 2 5i, came away with an 8, did the same on 4 other holes with driver when it was not needed, left the course with a 92 not bad for me but was mad 4 not sticking to the rules, bareing in mind this was the first time i played this course and didnt get much help from them that have. I know if id have stuck to the rules it would have been much better

ps There were two holes that you had to take drivers too a par 4 and a par 5

This was a great course and it takes 2 for1s on monday and wednesday well worth it.

Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s

Hi psycho.
First let me say thanx for posting your update and second , you have fullfilled one of my goals when writing this thread and that is, although you chose not to use this system , you thought about every shot on every hole and you were decisive and this will improve your course management skill no end becuase you will look back in hindsight and know where you played the wrong shot and when you are standing on the tee's next time you play this course , you will know exactly what shot and with wich club , to play.

cheers pal

Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s

To shoot low 80's you need 9 GIRs and should use only 32 puts on a round. That's stats from Golfdigest.

This is my goal for this season :-)

Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s




To me that is one of the things that is great about golf "there is no absolute right way to do things". Watch the Pro's on a short par 4 hole some will hit an Iron some will smash a Driver. Most of the time the Pro golfer is good at playing to his strength's and away from his weaknesses but they differ from player to player.

Just like this thread I think that a lot people can follow this advice and improve their scores. (the driver is getting them in trouble and having a lot of choices they are making the wrong choice) Others if the Driver was the strongest part of thier game, their scores are going to go up, before they ever go down. (if they ever do) Still others who play once a week/month and enjoy smashing that 1 perfect drive a round and do not really play enough to improve would be wasting their 1 time out on the course and the enjoyment out of the game if all they did was hit 7 irons.

I think the saying goes "drive for show, Putt for dough" My guess is that Dave is trying to say he will never putt for seriuos dough but he can maybe 1 time a round drive for show.

Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s

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This is anexcellent goal to have and i wish you all the best HANNU. Thanx for the stats , they will be most useful to me.

Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s

Hi bob.

as always i totally agree with you. this is a forum and i would be very arrogant to think my views should be understood or followed by everyone.
But, at the end of the day , it is about the individual and what he or she would like to gain from their game.

This as been one of the most enjoyable threads i have taken part in and i have learned a lot from it .

cheers bob

Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s

I apologise if people have got the wrong impression about what I am saying. It certainly wasn't meant as a criticism and I realise how sensible a suggestion it is for lots of people. I have personally played with some excellent putters who can't pitch or chip. Frankly they would improve their score by using a putter from a hundred yards in during dry weather! I just wouldn't want to play like that. I was only offering an alternative philosophy.
Dave.
P.S. - do you always get slaughtered on here even if you are polite?

Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s

No,No,No need to apologise, this is great, a life time of golfing thoughts on this thread, at one time maybe 5 years ago all i loved to do was belt the ball of the tee with a driver what a feeling, and still today the drive that whet like a rocket was great, but now 1 drive out of 3 does not cut it with me, now I try to make as many pars as possible for me this and enjoying the courses are no1, until I can master the driver like the irons the scores will not come down.

Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s

Hi folks.
I don't think the original thread was very well writen and there are one or two point's that i would like to make clear.

The thread was originally concieved with the idea of helping people who want to shoot in the 80's.
If you are happy just to play the occasional social round of golf, i understand and respect your choice.
If you choose to improve at your own pace and you like to boom those big drives down the fairway regardless of accuracey, i understand and respect your views.
If you do wish to improve your game and shoot lower scores and thus by doing so enhance your enjoyment of this game, you have to understand where your weaknesses lie and then work to improve them.

This is why this thread succeeds even when it fails. If a person reads this thread and sets out to shoot in the 80's but fails to do so, he/she will have by now ( even in this short space of time ) realised what part of their game prevented them from doing so ,and so they set about improving these aspects.If they have the desire and the perseverance to improve they eventually will, and , judging by some of the replies to this thread , quite a few have already improved.

somebody posted a reply along the lines of- i only have to hit 8 GIR and make 32 putts and i will break 90. i'm sorry to tell you that if you did manage 8 GIR and made 32 putts , chances are you still won't break 90, for one simple reason. Golf is not about how good your good shots are , but how good your BAD shots are, and if your bad shots are pretty bad then you still might not break 90.

Thanks again everyone for your replies

Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s

Thanks for that. I must admit at first I read it eagerly as a panacea to shoot in the 80's. (I should know at my age there isn't one!) My problem (?) is that I am actually quite accurate (but not long, say 220yds av.) with my driver but very inconsistent with most irons. So at first I thought this isn't going to work for me, but on reflection if I put my driver away I would have to play more irons, especially off the tee, which should improve the consistency of strike and help me get more par 3's which are my weakness. (We won't mention putting at this stage!). As my average score has been 92 for the last year it could make all the difference.
Thanks,
Dave.
(Again, sorry for any misunderstandings)

Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s

Yep, that might be my post.

It's just stats to give an image of what you need. It's just very likely that if you make 9 GIRs and use only 32 putts, you will play a round of 80. I found it helpful for me. It does not tell me how to make the GIRs. I might have a bad shot and still make it - or make it close enough to chip near the hole.

We do not know what information is helpful - or what is information. It's very much about ability to read and understand - we use different kind of knowledge to build our tactics and practicing plans.

About scoring in golf, even you had 65 on the 17 hole, you might not break 80. We just had a competition and one player make 23 in one hole - and he normally plays under 80.

So the idea of making GIRs is just something to think about and plan your practicing. Idea is that you do not have to go for the green every time - just every second time:-)

And to putt 32, you don not have 2 putts for every green. You need to chip close enough to sink it with one putt. To break 80, it might be a good idea to stay on the fairway, it's so much easier to play.

Just for the record - today I was very far from the fairway - most of the time.

Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s

Hi dave.
thanks for reply.
Now you have marked out for yourself some clearly defined goals, you have to decide how you are going to attain them.

i'm always around if you need any help.

cheers

Re: HOW TO SHOOT IN THE LOW 80,s

Dear Aftford and all the rest,

I have been following this post for several weeks. I wanted to try this system for my own and validate it in my own mind; today I did.

A little background on me first:
58 years old
Just got back into golf, seriously about 3 years ago
20 handicap; average score 94 for 18 holes
I play practically everyday.

Today I went to one of my favorite courses. It's a great course with a Rating of 70.4/118. My best round on this course ever, is a 91 and I know it pretty well.

For the front nine, I played nothing over a 5-iron, to test this theory. I scored a 51, which I was not very happy with. I never made one par, although I had my chances. I had a little spat with the sand on one hole.

On the back nine, I played with all my clubs and shot a 48.

I really expected a lower score considering all the testimony on this thread.

Any suggestions??

Chessbum...