Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

[golfonenemesis]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

Brian you are right and I have posted this many times on this and other sites, Bringing the butt end of the club as you say will not only encourage in to out but it also committs one to the shot and cures pulling up and out as many do. Also, creates lag but timing takes abit to get used to. At first many will hit fades and pushes but once timing is down, it works great.
I like to start people out with half swings to get the hang of it, then gradually work up to full swings

[mariner]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

Because I can do it without a ball no problem, perhaps I need to cure a "hit syndrome" first, any suggestions on doing that?

[Started2k3]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

Because I can do it without a ball no problem, perhaps I need to cure a "hit syndrome" first, any suggestions on doing that?

How do you know that you can do it without a ball? What feed back are you getting? Launch Monitor of some kind?

[Ian Hancock]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

When you swing without a ball it is more of an arm swing abit like swinging with your feet together, not really a swing.

If you do what I suggest with a piece of wood/headcover/box etc, you will be standing at the range with a 100 balls, the hit syndrome will not come into it, you will simply have to hit the ball from an inside path or collide with the object outside the ball.


It really is that simple.


Ian.

[mariner]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

How do you know that you can do it without a ball? What feed back are you getting? Launch Monitor of some kind?

I can see the path of the club when I swing through one of those rubber range tees, and it is a full swing, if anything it's faster than my "real" swing

[BrianW]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

Mariner,

I consider from your comments that your problem is one of swinging through with a practice swing and hitting at the ball in the real swing.

A clear image of a co-ordinated downswing is worth more than a thousand words when it comes to understanding what constitutes a great impact position. I think that it is best to view impact as part of a larger whole, especially if you over-emphasise it's importance or identify it as the only key position in the golf swing.

The key is not to view impact as the main focus of the swing, but rather as a position you must pass through en-route to completion. The ball must not be hit at, but rather collected on the way through.

I can only suggest you work on removing the hitting urge to improve the situation.

[Started2k3]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

I can see the path of the club when I swing through one of those rubber range tees, and it is a full swing, if anything it's faster than my "real" swing

Perfect I have the solution for you, since you are a photographer.

Take a picture of one of those rubber range tees. And put that picture on your golf ball.

I know this is possible because you can get some compound that can be applied to any surface which turns it into "film paper". And just use your dark room to develop the golf ball with the picture on it.

Now every time you tee off you will be doing your in-to-out swing and only trying to hit the "rubber range tee" picture.

[GregJWillis]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

Take a picture .... And put that picture on your golf ball

I want one of my monther-in-law!!! No problem hitting it 400 yds+

[BrianW]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

I want one of my monther-in-law!!! No problem hitting it 400 yds+

Very good Greg I take it the spelling "Monther" was meant to be "Monster"

[Started2k3]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

I want one of my monther-in-law!!! No problem hitting it 400 yds+

Why not have two pictures on the ball:
One side the monther-in-law for the huge drives,
the other side a puppy for the soft putts

[puttinone]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

What type of eqipment do you have. Maybe it isn't you?

[Broadus]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

1) For me, the "hit" syndrome produces more tension with resultant bad shots than anything else I can think of.

2) Swinging from the inside out is counter-intuitive. We don't want the ball to go to the right of the target (speaking of rh golfers)---we want to hit the ball at the target. Yet, when I make a nice, relaxed swing focusing on the back inside quarter of the ball, I have an in-to-out swing which produces a nice shot toward the target. The ball will fly straight or have a little draw.

Bill

[edshaw]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

Mariner, I am going to say the problem has
more to do with keeping it inside on the
way down than it has to do with getting
it inside to begin with.
A couple of key lower body factors enter in.
A couple of key sequence of swing factors
also enter in. However, the over riding factor
in getting it back is learning to make
the full turn, and, that results, yes, in the
hands being somewhere between one and two
feet directly behind the right ear at the top
of the swing. (The toes point ahead, the heels
point behind, so that we know what is meant
by behind)

[vp27519]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

Mariner, I don't think it is hard to teach us to swing from the inside. What I think is hard, is trusting that what we are taught and what we practice, will pay off in competition.

[pappu56]

Re: Why is so hard to teach us to swing from the inside?

Hi Mariner,

This really is getting too you.

I think its difficult to help with these things from a distance, it is so easier if you are with the person and long winded explanations in text can be difficult to follow. let me try a fairly simple routine for you to start with and see if it helps you:

At address imagine a straight line that is drawn from the target passing through the ball and continuing along behind you.

Make the initial backswing takeaway until the club is horizontal, pointing along the line of your feet with the butt end towards the target.

Now continue with the backswing but imagine you have a laser light fixed in the butt end of the grip handle. Allow the light to keep following along the line while the club moves all the way to the top.

As you make your downswing keep the light on the line all the way back until you reach the release position where the butt end is pointing at the target again.

Now release the club to impact. If you consciously keep the imaginary light on the target to ball line the club head will remain behind your hands and you will come down on the inside.

Just try it at home or on the range and get the feeling of directing the butt end of the club.

I really hope this helps you, it did me once.

I suggest that see your club pro because he can see whats happening while striking the ball.