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  • #46
    Re: average 300 yards really?

    It's all about technique. I'm not sure why, but I seem to hit my clubs really long compared to most people I play with. I play my 6 iron at 200 yards. If you are doing it proper, you don't have to be a big strong guy to rip a driver 300. My shortest drive today was about 270 and my longest was around 315. I'm only 5'9" about 185 lbs. I hit my 3 wood consistantly about 265. Took one off the deck today on a par 5 from 280 and went over the green. Not meaning to brag here, but just saying that if I can do it, anybody can do it. All it takes is some time on the range, maybe a lesson or 2 and work on proper swing mechanics. Practice practice practice practice. One other thing that I find about the average golfer is most poeple on the course are happy with a 200 dollar set of clubs from WalMart. I played with them for my first year. My 2nd year I got a set made for me. Lie, shaft flex, length, etc. all measured for my height and swing speed. That alone moved me up about 2 clubs in distance. On the drivers, go to a few demo days and try a bunch of different shafts until you find the one that works the best for you.

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    • #47
      Re: average 300 yards really?

      Originally posted by tigerwannabee
      It's all about technique.....
      I think I hit pretty decent, though if you read my other post about my golf break, I am back to about 250 from 180, although I was at 280ish before the break. I am tweaking my swing now that I got it down again to try to get my distance back. but to me 5'9" 185 is big, haha, I am 6'1" and 165. so it could be a bit due to strenth, but i agree mostly technique


      Would you care to share any of your swing thougts that help you hit this far?
      Last edited by lgskywalker37; 07-13-2006, 04:26 AM.

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      • #48
        Re: average 300 yards really?

        Hi tigerwannabee,

        WOW, with those distances you don't need any long or mid Irons just your wegde. saves a lot of Swing problems I bet.
        Just as a matter of interest what's your Handycap.

        Cheers Ian

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        • #49
          Re: average 300 yards really?

          gman. you got it right!!!
          never in my life have go further than 250 of the tee why? (I NEED THE ANSWER!!) IM, 5.8 175 bulky arms and chest.
          my avg. drive are 210,230
          in the drive range the most far ive drive was little far than 250 but never in the golf course???????
          how this people hitting 300 plus in the daily avg (hat off)AND TEACH US HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please
          and belive me ive tried baseball grip,overlap,interlock...
          ball in the middle stanca further left, off the left foot. right foot....and on ...and on
          Last edited by B11NONGOLF; 07-13-2006, 03:43 PM.

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          • #50
            Re: average 300 yards really?

            Originally posted by I_A_N
            Hi tigerwannabee,

            WOW, with those distances you don't need any long or mid Irons just your wegde. saves a lot of Swing problems I bet.
            Just as a matter of interest what's your Handycap.

            Cheers Ian
            About tigerwannabee: I don't want you to think he is bragging so I'll tell you. He's a scratch handicap on one of our local courses and + 3 on the other one. When he tells you his average distance with the driver is 300, you better believe it. When I step up to 150 yards with my seven iron, he's hitting nine iron or even PW from the same spot. This is the brother I'm always mentioning in my posts that has straightened my slice and fixed my swing.

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            • #51
              Re: average 300 yards really?

              the people who honestly hit 300 yard drives with some consistency know that it is much more attainable then most people realize, the people who hit 250 +/- have a hard time believing it is as easy as the others make it out to be. Now I am not saying average 300 but average 2 or more 300 yarders a round. Now for someone to average 300 yarders that is pretty big when you consider there are days when your off a little, wind factors in, wet conditions, etc. But when it comes down to it, to be able to hit 300 yarders is easier then people think but most would not believe it goes to the basics on how you set up and a few key swing mechanics

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              • #52
                Re: average 300 yards really?

                Originally posted by canadian_man_44
                About tigerwannabee: I don't want you to think he is bragging so I'll tell you. He's a scratch handicap on one of our local courses and + 3 on the other one. When he tells you his average distance with the driver is 300, you better believe it. When I step up to 150 yards with my seven iron, he's hitting nine iron or even PW from the same spot. This is the brother I'm always mentioning in my posts that has straightened my slice and fixed my swing.
                Hi Mann 44
                wow, Ich wish I lived a bit nearer so he could help out with my game. Your a lucky guy having someone close bye to help.
                Cheers and all the best,
                Ian

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                • #53
                  Re: average 300 yards really?

                  Originally posted by tigerwannabee
                  I'm only 5'9" about 185 lbs..
                  WHAT!!!!!! IS THAT WEIGHT AN APPROXIMATE?

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                  • #54
                    Re: average 300 yards really?

                    Originally posted by lgskywalker37
                    I think I hit pretty decent, though if you read my other post about my golf break, I am back to about 250 from 180, although I was at 280ish before the break. I am tweaking my swing now that I got it down again to try to get my distance back. but to me 5'9" 185 is big, haha, I am 6'1" and 165. so it could be a bit due to strenth, but i agree mostly technique


                    Would you care to share any of your swing thougts that help you hit this far?
                    0 handicap right now, for whoever asked that. One big thing I do that I believe leads to the strength is a do a lot of practice with a weighted club, working on swing speed. My swing speed on the launch monitor 2 weeks ago was 131 with my driver. Hit it right at that speed and it's gonna go far. Today I hit 3 greens with my driver, short par 4's, 343 yds, 360 and 377. The 377 one I had a decent wind behind me though. Strengthen the muscles used for the swing and it will all come together. A weighted club will also help you to keep your swing on the proper path throughout the swing.

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                    • #55
                      Re: average 300 yards really?

                      Originally posted by aftford
                      The trees, rough and fairway bunkers are full of long hitters.
                      No way ... they found my balls?

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                      • #56
                        Re: average 300 yards really?

                        Originally posted by tigerwannabee
                        0 handicap right now, for whoever asked that. One big thing I do that I believe leads to the strength is a do a lot of practice with a weighted club, working on swing speed. My swing speed on the launch monitor 2 weeks ago was 131 with my driver. Hit it right at that speed and it's gonna go far. Today I hit 3 greens with my driver, short par 4's, 343 yds, 360 and 377. The 377 one I had a decent wind behind me though. Strengthen the muscles used for the swing and it will all come together. A weighted club will also help you to keep your swing on the proper path throughout the swing.
                        131 is impressive, you really are a tigerwannabee lol. i have heard that weighted clubs are bad for joints, you ever ehard that? what do you use, the momentus?

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                        • #57
                          Re: average 300 yards really?

                          Originally posted by lgskywalker37
                          131 is impressive, you really are a tigerwannabee lol. i have heard that weighted clubs are bad for joints, you ever ehard that? what do you use, the momentus?
                          I've never heard about them being bad for the joints. I think hitting irons into the dirt swing after swing is worse. Yes, I have use the momentus. Sometimes I add another weight to the head. I'm hitting a Cleveland Launcher 460 right now, but thinking about switching to the Hibore as somebody told me I'd be able to hit that 15 to 20 yds longer.

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                          • #58
                            Re: average 300 yards really?

                            The Catch-22, it should go without saying, is that the
                            adjustments that are made for the sake of accuracy,
                            bit by bit eat into that raw club speed seen at the
                            driving range in the hands of strong, young, golfers.
                            The 280 yard drives are of questionable value unless
                            about 60% of them find a 40 yard wide fairway, and the
                            other 40% the margin of short rough on either side of it.
                            My drives average 200-230 yards, and I assure you, I
                            have a much easier time finding the fairway than do each
                            of my 280 yard slugging playing companions. Of the six
                            or so 280 yard hitters I play with, only two keep it on the
                            fairway consistently, and, believe me, they are hard to beat.
                            Would I give up driving accuracy for distance? You bet I would.
                            Would I sacrifice iron accuracy for more distance? Umm...I
                            don't think so.

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                            • #59
                              Re: average 300 yards really?

                              Originally posted by edshaw
                              The Catch-22, it should go without saying, is that the
                              adjustments that are made for the sake of accuracy,
                              bit by bit eat into that raw club speed seen at the
                              driving range in the hands of strong, young, golfers.
                              The 280 yard drives are of questionable value unless
                              about 60% of them find a 40 yard wide fairway, and the
                              other 40% the margin of short rough on either side of it.
                              My drives average 200-230 yards, and I assure you, I
                              have a much easier time finding the fairway than do each
                              of my 280 yard slugging playing companions. Of the six
                              or so 280 yard hitters I play with, only two keep it on the
                              fairway consistently, and, believe me, they are hard to beat.
                              Would I give up driving accuracy for distance? You bet I would.
                              Would I sacrifice iron accuracy for more distance? Umm...I
                              don't think so.
                              adding distance does not always decrease accuracy. If someone is hitting it short then their is a good chance their swing has some flaws in it, if they clean up some of those flaws then they may add distance and accuracy. Also, when you add distance you add options, tiger this past week was a great example of that. If you learn how to hit your driver 275, then that means you can always drop down to 255 with a 3 wood or 235 with a 1 iron hybrid. I have a 1 iron hybrid and I love the thing and I pull it out of the bag very often, many rounds I use it more than the driver and I hit the fairway with it around 70% of the time. In my swing I still swing with the same effort that I did when I was a 250-260 hitter, but my swing is more effecient, therefore longer and more accurate.

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                              • #60
                                Re: average 300 yards really?

                                Originally posted by shootin4par
                                adding distance does not always decrease accuracy. If someone is hitting it short then their is a good chance their swing has some flaws in it, if they clean up some of those flaws then they may add distance and accuracy. Also, when you add distance you add options, tiger this past week was a great example of that. If you learn how to hit your driver 275, then that means you can always drop down to 255 with a 3 wood or 235 with a 1 iron hybrid. I have a 1 iron hybrid and I love the thing and I pull it out of the bag very often, many rounds I use it more than the driver and I hit the fairway with it around 70% of the time. In my swing I still swing with the same effort that I did when I was a 250-260 hitter, but my swing is more effecient, therefore longer and more accurate.
                                That may sound right, but from a matemathical point of view, it is incorrect.

                                While sacrificing distance does not necessarily improve your aim, it DOES increase the level of tolerance. It's simple triangulation.

                                If you hit the ball 280 yards, and need to hit a 40yard wide fairway, then the tolerance is +/- 4.1 degrees.

                                If you only hit 180 yards and need to hit the same fairway, then the tolerance is +/- 6.3 degrees.

                                That's a difference of 2.2 degrees or 53.7% more acceptable target area!

                                Of course, over the entire hole, the difference evens itself out.

                                A 360 yard par 4 with a 15 yard wide green, could be one 180 yard shot with 6.3 deg tolerance followed by another 180yard shot with a 2.4 deg tolerance onto the green, or it could be one 280 yard shot with a 4.1 deg tolerance and 1 80 yard shot with a 5.4 deg tolerance (appx 125% more acceptable target area - which, by the way, is fairly constant no matter how small your target is, aiming for the pin v. center of the green).

                                Regarding options, it is true that adding distance adds options, but adding distance often also adds challenges - fairway bunkers, water hazards, out of bounds etc. coming in play.

                                SO all in all - I don't think there is a definate conclusion here. It's all about playing to the odds.

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