i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

[bdbl]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

lmao I wasn't implying anyone who doesn't use it is narrow minded
What I am saying if you don't want to try or use it then don't and stop the whining about whether it right or not for beginners, it 's good for you or whatever.
The people who have posted on here that my comment is aimed at, know who they are, the people who are taking offense at what i said then I am sorry for your guilty conscience.
People either are for it or against it, those against it 1 comment saying it not for them is sufficient then post no more. As for the people over using their belief and enthusiasm for it, they are answering peoples questions and inquiries on the subject and trying to point them in the right direction. Yes there are people in between who cant make up their mind thats why they ask questions but it is up to that individual to take on the theory, peoples opinion who have tried it and offered advice. Then make up their mind if and when they try it. All the negativity from others is neither wanted or needed.

Thanks peeps if it offends then look in the mirror and ask yourself why.

Bollox then, I'm off this thread and off this board.

[bill reed]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

hi Keith
what your saying is if it works for you then tell about it on here but if it don't then shut up. sorry i don't see it like that if it don't work for you then you have the same rights to talk about it at the many on here that it has worked for, this forum is big enough for both views to be heard. i for one want to hear the good things and the bad so i can make my own judgments just the same as you have done.
i don't have the book but that don't mean i am not interested in reading it at some later date.
bill

[keith_mufc]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

lmao I wasn't implying anyone who doesn't use it is narrow minded
What I am saying if you don't want to try or use it then don't and stop the whining about whether it right or not for beginners, it 's good for you or whatever.
The people who have posted on here that my comment is aimed at, know who they are, the people who are taking offense at what i said then I am sorry for your guilty conscience.
People either are for it or against it, those against it 1 comment saying it not for them is sufficient then post no more. As for the people over using their belief and enthusiasm for it, they are answering peoples questions and inquiries on the subject and trying to point them in the right direction. Yes there are people in between who cant make up their mind thats why they ask questions but it is up to that individual to take on the theory, peoples opinion who have tried it and offered advice. Then make up their mind if and when they try it. All the negativity from others is neither wanted or needed.

Thanks peeps if it offends then look in the mirror and ask yourself why.

[bill reed]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

hi Keith
i don't think i am narrow minded but i use a different system to 3 skill's. i know my system is working for me and i don't want to change but that don't mean i am against the 3 skill's. up to now i have never commented on it and i won't as i have not read the book and as such don't know if how good it is.
my game is good and i know my system really well now but i know it wont work for every one.
please don't make out that that every one that don't use the 3 skill's means there against it, it just some of us are happy with what we have.
i also have back problems and not played this last few weeks due to it so know how your feeling.
hope your back swinging soon.
best regards
bill

[bdbl]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

All this and I still cant get a full round in cos of the back situation didnt get 100% better and I pushed it too far. Hence no golf again,

What are we debating
For
a really good theory that honest fair minded people on here have seen work at 1st hand and who have put the idea into practice and its worked for them.

Against
Some narrow minded people that seem to be obsessed with swing mechanics, fundamentals and a paranoid belief that they are trying to be ripped off.

Nobody is forcing you to buy the book or try the 3 skills

Sorry if it upsets but try it or dont simple

P.S f**k it am not sorry I cant play cos of my back so hence the wrath

Ahem, "cough", Oi, excuse me.

I think I was one of the first people to ask whether the 3Skills are more effective for those with sound fundamentals than for those without.

I don't believe that I am narrow minded, anyone less obsessed with mechanics of the swing than me would hard to find and I have never suggested that there is some lying, devious rip off sales campaign going on - I have even bought the book and am trying to implement the theories - so whilst I'm not firnly in the pro group yet I kind of resent the implication that I might be in the latter.


Hope your back gets better soon btw.

[keith_mufc]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

All this and I still cant get a full round in cos of the back situation didnt get 100% better and I pushed it too far. Hence no golf again,

What are we debating
For
a really good theory that honest fair minded people on here have seen work at 1st hand and who have put the idea into practice and its worked for them.

Against
Some narrow minded people that seem to be obsessed with swing mechanics, fundamentals and a paranoid belief that they are trying to be ripped off.

Nobody is forcing you to buy the book or try the 3 skills

Sorry if it upsets but try it or dont simple

P.S f**k it am not sorry I cant play cos of my back so hence the wrath

[BrianW]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

[Warning!!! This post contains 3 skills. Anyone with a 3 Skills allergy should not read further]

Swing Dynamics and 3 skills:

I have been considering the question of whether it is possible to concentrate solely on the 3 skills or if you need to also work on swing dynamics to make them effective.

The jury is still out at this moment but I am warming to the view that if the 3 skills are practiced and perfected then the swing should follow. I think basic fundamentals like grip, posture and address should be taught first. It is not possible to make good ball contact with the 3 skills unless you are fundamentally using your body in a way that allows them to be executed. This suggests that if you are able to execute the skills then your body movements must be correct.

If you had a reverse pivot, for example then you could not use exercise 1 correctly. If you come over the top you could not achieve 2. If you had too much body sway then again you would not achieve 1 or 2. And so on.

So! as I said I am warming to the theory that if you have a good swingpath through impact that creates the desired ball flight then your body must be doing the right things without focusing on them.

[slater170]

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Sadly it wasn't actually a PB - unless we open a "bad weather" category - however as requested by other posters it was a quantifiable improvement in ball striking in that I made up the 8 strokes lost to a poor short game and whatever for the lousy weather.

Interestingly my psr is much the same as yours - effectively a slomo rehearsal rather than a practice swing - as posted I still have "rotation" issues but I have my new mental image as supplied by Brian to work on.

Obviously I can't tell you what the new mental image is as thats Brian and my secret

thats okay guys ive got my 3skills thing dialled in

[Neil18]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

"Obviously I can't tell you what the new mental image is as thats Brian and my secret "

ROFLMAO!

[BrianW]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Sadly it wasn't actually a PB - unless we open a "bad weather" category - however as requested by other posters it was a quantifiable improvement in ball striking in that I made up the 8 strokes lost to a poor short game and whatever for the lousy weather.

Interestingly my psr is much the same as yours - effectively a slomo rehearsal rather than a practice swing - as posted I still have "rotation" issues but I have my new mental image as supplied by Brian to work on.

Obviously I can't tell you what the new mental image is as thats Brian and my secret

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[bdbl]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

great news robin
well done on the "PB"
my preshot routine involves a slow motion swing into the ball from into out and hopefully on the right angle of descent.

Sadly it wasn't actually a PB - unless we open a "bad weather" category - however as requested by other posters it was a quantifiable improvement in ball striking in that I made up the 8 strokes lost to a poor short game and whatever for the lousy weather.

Interestingly my psr is much the same as yours - effectively a slomo rehearsal rather than a practice swing - as posted I still have "rotation" issues but I have my new mental image as supplied by Brian to work on.

Obviously I can't tell you what the new mental image is as thats Brian and my secret

[slater170]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Just a quick addendum.

Obviously scoring is not just about ball striking; like many high caps I'm often short of the green and my first "putt" is actually a chip so ppr target is around 30 not 36 to allow for this.

My PB was set with iirc 27 putts - I've just dug out my scorecard and checked, yesterday I had 35 putts.

great news robin
well done on the "PB"
my preshot routine involves a slow motion swing into the ball from into out and hopefully on the right angle of descent.

[bdbl]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Yesterday my main focus was angle of descent (SK1*) and I had the subjective impression that in so much as the conditions allowed I was striking the ball better. Given my performance for 17 holes in those conditions (a friend suggested that they made the course at least 6 shots harder) I'd say that 3Skills has started to help my game.

Just a quick addendum.

Obviously scoring is not just about ball striking; like many high caps I'm often short of the green and my first "putt" is actually a chip so ppr target is around 30 not 36 to allow for this.

My PB was set with iirc 27 putts - I've just dug out my scorecard and checked, yesterday I had 35 putts.

[Ian Hancock]

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Good Post,

I struggled with sk2 a little at first, I have always hit the ball really well and very straight but with very little distance or divot from 8iron up compared with my partners, I found by trying to change my angle of attack I was keeping a little more weight on my left (yes Left) side in the backswing, this was an automatic respose of my body simply because I was trying to nail it down.

SK3 is the most difficult for me as I have always hit straight or maybe a little fade, again my view of this was to keep my right foot (yes right) still down until my hands drop down inside, almost like staying in the right side through impact, every lesson I ever have the result was letting myself go through to early, with the three skills it has cured this automatically by trying to attack from inside.......................its impossible to attack from inside if you go to early.

I still hit some old type shots but one thing is for sure, Like most of the converts here once you hit ONE ball using all three your hooked it feels great.

Not sure what we can do with Todd he seems to be really suffering with this....!!!

Ian.

[bdbl]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

It occurs to me that visualization might work better for some than others.

I wonder if marking a "nail spot" on the ball would be helpful...

I think that is definitely the case; I have real problems [SK3] creating the open-to-close rotation just by visualising the ball flight. I can "see" my drive going out right no problem, I'm used to that but can't see it coming back - however I'm working on a different image that some one suggested.

Anyway I thought a small progress report from someone who has been having problems implementing 3Skills might be useful to sceptics.

Yesterday I reached the relatively easy Par 3 18th needing (I found out when checking the card) a Par to break my PB - as it happens I put my first OOB, messed up a 8ft chip on the reload to come away with a 6.

So what.

Well my PB was set from the yellow, non-comp tees on a fine summer day with only a slight breeze and the fairways giving you good roll. Yesterday the fairways still had surface water after some torrential rain and the ball wasn't running much; the course was set up so that men were off the white comp tees (there'd been a comp the day before) the wind was such that, on a short hole where a PW would normally be enough I was 20 yards short with a well hit 8 iron - the wind also played havoc around and on the greens.

Yesterday my main focus was angle of descent (SK1*) and I had the subjective impression that in so much as the conditions allowed I was striking the ball better. Given my performance for 17 holes in those conditions (a friend suggested that they made the course at least 6 shots harder) I'd say that 3Skills has started to help my game.

SK1* For Todd's benefit; you'll see that I say "angle of descent" - this is because I find it easier to think of how the club head is moving down over a longer distance than just the impact area to the angled nail head; comes to the same difference I think but you might want to try it.