i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

[bill reed]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

hi oldwease
when you say, (sk2 squaring the face to target at the farthest point of the swing.) do you mean just as the club head comes in behind the ball its square and then it starts to close, sorry i don't know the difference from sk2 and sk3.
but i think i understand in that you are saying my system would not work with this system as i try and keep my club face on line after impact and not let the club head close.
do i have that right.
thanks oldwease.
bill

[oldwease]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

hi Brian
i have a question but you might not know or be able to help me understand? Lee Trevino hits the ball with an in-to-out swing and then pushed his hands away from the body to keep the clubface open or at least pointing down the line he wants the ball to start out. he keeps the club face looking in line longer than any other pro that i know off and as a result he is still one of the best ball strikes ever to play. can you use 3 skills with this type of swing. i mean not letting the club face close till long after impact. why i ask is thats how i play and it works really well. i had Bonnar's dvd but his (home run) would not work with my type of swing as it resulted in me hitting the ball in the same direction as my stance, ie my wide open stance and the ball would fly way to the left.
any help on any of this i would be great.
thanks again
bill

If I could jump in here, Bill. That wouldn't be the 3SKs since it does not apply SK2 (squaring the club face to target at the farthest point of the swing arc) or SK3 (rotating the club face through impact). Using SK2, the club head should return inside the target line immediately after impact.

[bill reed]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

hi Brian
i have a question but you might not know or be able to help me understand? Lee Trevino hits the ball with an in-to-out swing and then pushed his hands away from the body to keep the clubface open or at least pointing down the line he wants the ball to start out. he keeps the club face looking in line longer than any other pro that i know off and as a result he is still one of the best ball strikes ever to play. can you use 3 skills with this type of swing. i mean not letting the club face close till long after impact. why i ask is thats how i play and it works really well. i had Bonnar's dvd but his (home run) would not work with my type of swing as it resulted in me hitting the ball in the same direction as my stance, ie my wide open stance and the ball would fly way to the left.
any help on any of this i would be great.
thanks again
bill

[Ian Hancock]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Brian,

I have had something similar happen to my swing, I must admit this 3SKs malarky had me worried about my swing, after a video clip I was definatlely a little steeper on the backswing, I have always been a little to flat, hence hitting good shots but always quite thin.

Great story about the guy's pitching before the comp.

It does work 'that' fast.

Ian.

[BrianW]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Third time lucky


I wrote this on a previous page Twice:

I have just returned from the British Masters, I followed the winner Westwood, Monty, Sterne, Poulter and many more:

1) I pre-shot the same
2) I set-up the same
3) I use the same equipment
4) I swing on the similar plane
5) My ball position is the same
6) I use the same balls
7) I look stronger than a few, some are tall, some are short, fat and thin also..!!!

So I ask myself what is different It is there ball striking, it is so much more solid and powerfull.......?????


How is this achieved I ask myself...................3skills springs to mind.


I can believe that I have posted this note 3 times now and not one person has picked up on the meaning or the notion that this is the thinking behind the 3skills book.....................................for goodness sake ask yourself what is different between you and a pro....!!!!

Welcome back Robin: ADI....Advanced Driving Instructor............or.........Advanced downswing Instructor.

Ian.

Hi Ian,

They earn more money and for some reason they look better in those hats as well.

Well, I just agree with what you have said there, it echos very much my own view.

Did you read my last post where I am coming round to believe that you can actually let the swing happen as long as the skills are being produced?

I spent a bit of time studying many pros swings using my VI software, it is absolutely true that they do not all swing the same but in just around every case they are executing 3Sks (I think I will use the abbreviation 3Sks now).

During my recent range sessions I have taken the length of my backswing, how I follow through (no puns please!) hip rotation etc out of my consciousness and thought only on the clubface coming down into and through impact. I am finding if I do that correctly then I cant help but make a decent swing. OK, the argument might be that I have already grooved that part of my swing but I think it's getting better all on it's own. For example, I had the feeling that I was using a limited backswing but found that the ball was going a good distance, when I asked a mate if my backswing looked cramped he said it didn't, he said it looked very good.

I have a friend who has always struggled with his short game, his pitch shots were a disaster, he had a tendency to create either horrible slices or bad pushes and tops with his wedges, it had just about ruined his confidence. Last week he was about to take part in a matchplay comp and was so wound up about his pitching he considered pulling out just before. I took him over to the practice green and spent around 20 minutes with him showing him skills 1 & 2. Without exaggeration he was getting the ball up in the air and straight, time after time. He came back from his game full of renewed confidence and ordered the book.

[Ian Hancock]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Third time lucky


I wrote this on a previous page Twice:

I have just returned from the British Masters, I followed the winner Westwood, Monty, Sterne, Poulter and many more:

1) I pre-shot the same
2) I set-up the same
3) I use the same equipment
4) I swing on the similar plane
5) My ball position is the same
6) I use the same balls
7) I look stronger than a few, some are tall, some are short, fat and thin also..!!!

So I ask myself what is different It is there ball striking, it is so much more solid and powerfull.......?????


How is this achieved I ask myself...................3skills springs to mind.


I can believe that I have posted this note 3 times now and not one person has picked up on the meaning or the notion that this is the thinking behind the 3skills book.....................................for goodness sake ask yourself what is different between you and a pro....!!!!

Ian.

Hi Bill,

The thing is when I had a 3skills lesson with Kevin, at Arden I was instantly impressed, I'm off single figures anyway so some of this I was probably doing just not all the time etc......................the 3skills seems to take everything away and zero swing thoughts just a 'mind set' what you are going to do.

I thought long and hard at home that night and just couldn't get my head around how something so simple has not been snatched up by Butch Harmen or maybe this is there secret...!!!

Back to the masters last week I walked around with my son for 12 hours watching loads of swings, the only thing they did better than me was striking the ball, not always in the right direction but with power and crisp contact. yes they putt/chip a little better they do it for a living, but I do everything they do except hit the ball the same. Again after serious thought to this, it is the 3skills that make them different.

I suspect this is what Joe thought when he wrote his book................!!


Thanks

ian.

[bill reed]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

hi Ian
don't know if you mean that a pro hits the ball on the sweet spot of the club face time after time after time and also with the clubhead square, this gives them a constant distance and ball flight where us high handicap players do not have that that consistence sweetspot ball striking and the ball flight and distance both vary. the big difference is in the impact zone.
bill

[slater170]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

I don't Know Ian, I have had ten years + now.............I think you mean more time honing 3SKs.........

Ian.

sorry ian i rushed my reply i meant hone their 3skills swings

[bdbl]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Welcome back Robin:
ADI....Advanced Driving Instructor............or.........Advanced downswing Instructor.

Ian.

LOL, The first unfortunately (as a trainee for a while and until the Part 3 is conquered) much as the second sounds more attractive.

[Ian Hancock]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

ive got better dress sense than poulter
i got it the 1st time it was posted ian, the only thing i would argue is that they have more time to hone their swings

I don't Know Ian, I have had ten years + now.............I think you mean more time honing 3SKs.........

Ian.

[slater170]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Third time lucky


I wrote this on a previous page Twice:

I have just returned from the British Masters, I followed the winner Westwood, Monty, Sterne, Poulter and many more:

1) I pre-shot the same
2) I set-up the same
3) I use the same equipment
4) I swing on the similar plane
5) My ball position is the same
6) I use the same balls
7) I look stronger than a few, some are tall, some are short, fat and thin also..!!!

So I ask myself what is different It is there ball striking, it is so much more solid and powerfull.......?????


How is this achieved I ask myself...................3skills springs to mind.


I can believe that I have posted this note 3 times now and not one person has picked up on the meaning or the notion that this is the thinking behind the 3skills book.....................................for goodness sake ask yourself what is different between you and a pro....!!!!

Welcome back Robin: ADI....Advanced Driving Instructor............or.........Advanced downswing Instructor.

Ian.

ive got better dress sense than poulter
i got it the 1st time it was posted ian, the only thing i would argue is that they have more time to hone their swings

[Ian Hancock]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Third time lucky


I wrote this on a previous page Twice:

I have just returned from the British Masters, I followed the winner Westwood, Monty, Sterne, Poulter and many more:

1) I pre-shot the same
2) I set-up the same
3) I use the same equipment
4) I swing on the similar plane
5) My ball position is the same
6) I use the same balls
7) I look stronger than a few, some are tall, some are short, fat and thin also..!!!

So I ask myself what is different It is there ball striking, it is so much more solid and powerfull.......?????


How is this achieved I ask myself...................3skills springs to mind.


I can believe that I have posted this note 3 times now and not one person has picked up on the meaning or the notion that this is the thinking behind the 3skills book.....................................for goodness sake ask yourself what is different between you and a pro....!!!!

Welcome back Robin: ADI....Advanced Driving Instructor............or.........Advanced downswing Instructor.

Ian.

[slater170]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Good news Robin both on the qualification and GTO front. ADI? Acrobatic Detective Inspector?

welcome back robin
welldone on the pass
Analogue Device Inspection must be really interesting

[BrianW]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

I woke up this morning to find some kind PMs in my mailbox suggesting that I reconsider leaving the forum; coupled with some of the comments in the thread today I, if no one else , am pleased to say I'M BACK

Had to come back really if only to tell Bulldog that I passed my ADI Part 2 this morning - he'll know that feeling - so my life style career change is gaining momentum.

Good news Robin both on the qualification and GTO front. ADI? Acrobatic Detective Inspector?

[bdbl]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

I woke up this morning to find some kind PMs in my mailbox suggesting that I reconsider leaving the forum; coupled with some of the comments in the thread today I, if no one else , am pleased to say I'M BACK

Had to come back really if only to tell Bulldog that I passed my ADI Part 2 this morning - he'll know that feeling - so my life style career change is gaining momentum.